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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Douglas Lumsden

Does the member share my view that a panel will not be created imminently and that, once the Government gets things corrected and has a system that we can all agree on, we can potentially have a panel, or something else, at that stage? The transport commissioner is not going to create a panel at this time.

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Douglas Lumsden

I think that Monica Lennon was going to come in next.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Douglas Lumsden

Thank you, minister. My point is about panels being created. Thinking about the trajectory that SPT is on, when would you envisage the panel being created, whether the SSI is approved or not? Would it be in 2026, 2027 or 2028?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Douglas Lumsden

This last amendment is quite brief. It simply involves making all the regulations under the bill subject to the affirmative procedure. The bill proposes that some regulations be subject to the affirmative and some to the negative procedure. We all agree that climate change is too important an issue not to give supplementary legislation full scrutiny. Making the regulations subject to the affirmative procedure would ensure that they get the scrutiny that they deserve.

I move amendment 51.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Douglas Lumsden

I can perhaps understand some of the reasons for not accepting the proposal but, for the sake of compromise, is there other wording that might be acceptable to strengthen the bill without tying the Government’s hands?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Douglas Lumsden

Amendments 64, 49 and 50 are basically all the same. The Climate Change Committee is named in UK legislation but not in the Scottish legislation. Amendment 64 would specifically name the Climate Change Committee or any successor organisations as the relevant body from which ministers must take advice. We all agree that, in order to be non-partisan, advice on climate change plans and budgets should come from an independent source. The amendments would simply name the Climate Change Committee in the bill.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Standards Scotland Climate Change Targets Delivery Improvement Report

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Douglas Lumsden

How will you encourage more local authorities to report on the trickier categories? If you do that, I imagine that you will learn lessons about getting the methodology correct.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Standards Scotland Climate Change Targets Delivery Improvement Report

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Douglas Lumsden

If you do not measure the emissions in certain areas, how can you take action to improve the situation?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Standards Scotland Climate Change Targets Delivery Improvement Report

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Douglas Lumsden

I want to know what we should do if there are gaps, but I will pass back to the convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Douglas Lumsden

I agree with Mark Ruskell and Bob Doris. We need to hear both sides of the argument, and it would be good to hear from the Scottish Government, too, as Bob Doris has recommended. It is clear that we need another evidence session before we move forward with this.