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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 February 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Douglas Lumsden

That links to my next question. The bill does not explicitly set out that undertaking licensed or consented activities cannot constitute ecocide or provide a defence along those lines. That has raised concerns among different sectors, including farming, fishing and renewables. Is the approach in the bill appropriate? What implications might it have for SEPA and NatureScot, as bodies that are actively involved in consenting and permitting?

Perhaps we can hear from Dr Mitchell, as he raised that issue.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Douglas Lumsden

In my questions, I will continue to ask about project willow, which the deputy convener raised with you. There are two SAF projects in project willow. One is about first-generation SAF—the HEFA one—and the other is about third-generation SAF. Should we still be pursuing the first-generation project, especially when we look at the mandates that are coming forward? That is almost like a bridge to other fuels in the future. Is it still feasible to have that project within project willow?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Douglas Lumsden

We spoke about responsibilities flowing down. You are responsible for licensing and consenting, so are you in danger of committing ecocide if you permit too many things? Could the responsibility then go back up to SEPA or even to the Scottish Government?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Douglas Lumsden

I put the same question on finances to Dr Mitchell. Does the figure cover what you might have to do?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Would the clarification come from regulations, or should it be in the bill?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Does anyone else want to add to that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Minister, do you think that the SAF working group should be reconvened?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Can that money be spent on first-generation SAF, or is that excluded from what the bill covers?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Douglas Lumsden

I will move on to my next question. We have heard that, for third-generation SAF, we need green hydrogen and a functioning carbon capture industry. Is there a risk of the Scottish SAF industry relying on those uncertain net zero industries, minister?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Douglas Lumsden

No, that is fine. That was all from me for now, convener.