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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 December 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Why, do you think, did that happen? Was there more money in the system and people were not too protective of budgets? Was there more of an appetite to take some risks than there had been before?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Does Mr Clark have anything to add? I will ask one last thing, if that is okay, convener. We heard about a local governance review, but the Scottish Government seems to have gone quiet on that. It is meant to be coming back, but we have not seen it. I would have thought that that would be part of the key reforms.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

I will stick with Ms Payne for a moment. You mentioned that there should be localism, on which we have heard a couple of things. We were expecting some sort of blueprint for public sector reform to come from the former Cabinet Secretary for Finance and the Economy. The former Deputy First Minister then said, “We will leave it to the organisations—to each local authority or whatever. We will give them five themes and they can go and do their own thing”. Which way will it work?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

The question is whether it is true reform or salami slicing for all the different organisations.

Does Professor Connolly have anything to add?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

From reading the submissions and from what I have heard today, I have picked up that there is no clarity, that the pace needs to increase, that there are no targets, that there is no evaluation, that there is no real focus on prevention and intervention, and that there is an implementation gap between policy and delivery. How can the Scottish Government get the reform agenda back on track? What you have said seems to be quite damning so far. Professor Connolly, will you go first?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Should that be part of the reform that we are discussing?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Ms Payne, do you want to add to that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

I listened to the cabinet secretary last week and she said:

“if not this, what? If not now, when?”—[Official Report, 9 May 2023; c 68.]

I have the same questions. I think that this is an ideal opportunity to put such support in place. We have the recommendations from the Mental Welfare Commission for Scotland. If we do not put something in place now, when will that happen? If we do not put something in place now, that report could be another one that just gathers dust.

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

I will be quite brief, convener. I welcome the opportunity to engage with the cabinet secretary, and I hope that the invitation will be extended to Sandra Geddes, Alan’s sister. I know that she would welcome that—she has always said that her brother was failed, but she accepts that the attacker, Stuart Quinn, was also failed. He was let out one night with nowhere to go—he got chatting to somebody randomly at a bar, who tried to get him some accommodation but could not get anything and then offered him a place to stay for that night, with the tragic consequences that came from that. I welcome the engagement. I still intend to press my amendment, however.

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Thank you—it is all down to Sandra. As I said in my initial comments, she is a brave and determined woman, which is why I am here, speaking to this amendment today. As I said, she always points out that Stuart Quinn was also failed by the state.

I want to press on with the matter, and I welcome the engagement. If we can change the amendment to bring it back at a later stage, I would be happy with that, but I will press the amendment today.