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Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 13 March 2025
Paul O'Kane
That is very helpful.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 11 March 2025
Paul O'Kane
Good morning. I am particularly interested in how we report and record in situations where ethnicity and disability cross over. I have had the opportunity to ask questions, particularly on the recording of data belonging to people who are applying for social security and on understanding their rights.
I appreciate that there is a proposal to extend gender pay gap reporting to look more specifically at ethnicity and disability. I know that CEMVO said that there are risks associated with reporting on that—in particular because low numbers could impact on the results. We have seen that issue in social security more broadly, which I have referred to. Could witnesses make some general comments on that?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 11 March 2025
Paul O'Kane
That was helpful. Thanks.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 11 March 2025
Paul O'Kane
That is useful.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 11 March 2025
Paul O'Kane
On reflection, my question probably goes back to an earlier point, which was that we need to analyse and understand causes and effects and then think about what action could be taken, which is of interest to the committee. Jill Wood or Lindsey Millen, do you want to add anything on multifaceted reporting? Lindsey, I saw you nodding during some of the previous contributions.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 11 March 2025
Paul O'Kane
I started by asking about data. I know that CRER has also commented on the need for social security data in order to understand the poverty gap if folk are not in work. Do you think that we need a broader suite of data in that space?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 11 March 2025
Paul O'Kane
Good morning. I asked the previous panel of witnesses how we might extend pay gap reporting, particularly in terms of ethnicity and disability, and I am particularly interested in getting a broader view on that.
With regard to older people and people who are ageing in work, there is often something of a disability gap that can be tested and might develop over time. It would be good to get a sense of whether you think that we should extend the reporting to consider disability within that pay gap. It would also be interesting to hear witnesses’ views on ethnicity in that regard. Pauline Nolan, could you start?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 11 March 2025
Paul O'Kane
Your last point is interesting, because in the earlier session, the point was raised that although we have data sets and quite a lot of information, and people are very often good at reporting—although not perfect, as Pauline Nolan suggests—if everybody reports but there is a lack of action, the implementation gap then becomes the issue.
This is maybe a broader question about data for everyone, but do you agree that there is a lot of data, but the challenge is the deep-dive interrogation of that data?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 11 March 2025
Paul O'Kane
I will pick up on the point about the Scottish Government pointing to interaction with the UK Government. In the discussion about the Employment Rights Bill, there is a commitment to address the disability pay gap. Do you sense that the Scottish Government is keen to see the outcome of that? Was that the reason that it gave you?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 11 March 2025
Paul O'Kane
Thanks.