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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 February 2026
Katy Clark
I will not touch on budget and resource issues, because one of my colleagues will ask about that later.
I understand that there are more than 3,700 submissions. Could you give us more detail on the main issues that you are looking at? What is the broad outline of what you are considering and what people are saying to you? Will you be publishing all the submissions, along with a summary of the issues that are raised? How are you going to communicate with everybody on the process that you are going through?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 February 2026
Katy Clark
Will all the submissions be published?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 February 2026
Katy Clark
I have visited a number of fire stations, and it is quite clear that in some of them it would be practically impossible for there to be safe systems of work due to a lack of showering facilities, for example. I appreciate that there may be cultural points, but perhaps you could address some of the resource issues, and then we can go on to the cultural issues.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 February 2026
Katy Clark
You obviously want to keep up a good relationship with your employer, and that is a positive thing, but the obvious worry is that there has been a delay due to the forthcoming election. What is likely to be proposed might be very unpopular—and the money has not been allocated in this year’s budget for the expanded role.
What impact do you expect this year’s budget, which we are examining now, along with the 2026 spending review, to have on plans for service reform? Will the proposed budget that you have now seen have an impact?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 February 2026
Katy Clark
You are saying that you fear that both station closures and job losses are coming.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 February 2026
Katy Clark
In your submission, on the potential reforms that are being considered, you say:
“it is unlikely that we will be in a position to make a final decision before the pre-election period begins in March.”
Can you give us more detail on the work that is being done on service reform and when you expect to make a final decision? Are you able to share any information on the timetable?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 February 2026
Katy Clark
Are some of those issues around climate?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 February 2026
Katy Clark
I understand that you will be publishing your proposals and your thinking, but will all the raw data and submissions be published? Will that be available to the public?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 February 2026
Katy Clark
I am a little concerned that we are straying from the legal point. I understand that you have a long-term programme of work, and I have heard many people mention that wet wipes are being used at the scenes of incidents, but the point that I am making is that you are sending firefighters out when there is no safe system of work and you have legal liability. What is your response to that? It is clear that firefighters are regularly being contaminated when they attend scenes and that there is no safe system of work in that regard.
I appreciate everything that you have said—we have heard that evidence previously—but I need to put to you the point that the fire service is exposed. What is your response to that?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 February 2026
Katy Clark
Will you be publishing submissions?