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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 11 May 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Russell Findlay

I have a continuation of the line of questioning from my colleague Sharon Dowey. Police Scotland and the Crown Office have both written to the Finance and Public Administration Committee with concerns about the bill’s financial memorandum, and the finance committee’s convener has written to this committee’s convener and to you about that.

Some of the biggest concerns relate to the cost of sex crime courts, which are mentioned in part 5 of the bill and are therefore a matter for another day. However, the cost of the commissioner is also cited as an area of concern. In that light, is the Scottish Government revisiting, reassessing or re-evaluating the cost of the bill?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Russell Findlay

Is the cost being re-evaluated or reassessed?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Russell Findlay

Absolutely. That question was about the budget for HMP Kilmarnock but my next question is specifically about the budget for HMP Glasgow and the impact that that will have on the SPS. The SPS capital budget for 2024-25 was £192 million; for 2025-26 it will be £80 million; and—I have not done this in chronological order—for 2023-24 it is £97 million. The total for those three years is less than the projected or speculated cost of £400 million for the new HMP Glasgow. First, is £400 million the most up-to-date figure and how on earth can you expect to pay for it, given these sums?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Russell Findlay

Given the very real concerns around costs and the fact that we do not know how much the new prison will cost, are you having conversations with the Government about additional capital funding to meet the cost of HMP Glasgow?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Russell Findlay

David Kennedy of the Scottish Police Federation has described policing in Scotland as having been “asset stripped” over the past decade, with more than 140 police stations being closed and a reduction in the number of officers. We have heard similar concerns in the past from the previous chief constable and others in policing. What does the Government intend to do to deal with the capital backlog in policing?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Russell Findlay

We can debate police officer numbers all day long and interpret statistics in our own way, but one thing that we can agree on is that, uniquely in the United Kingdom, Police Scotland officers do not have the protection of body-worn cameras. Provision of those was a commitment made by the First Minister on at least two occasions, but the most recent response with regard to the budget for Police Scotland is that it may not have the money to bring them in to give officers protection. Are you concerned about that specific area, and is there anything that can be done to assure officers that they will get those cameras?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Russell Findlay

Okay. Thank you very much.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Russell Findlay

The SPS witnesses were also unable to tell us how much it would cost to transfer HMP Kilmarnock or the likely cost of running that prison. Has the Scottish Government done any financial analysis of that? Can that be shared with the committee?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Russell Findlay

Which part do you dispute?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Russell Findlay

There has been a decade of underspend, year after year, and those are decisions that have been made by the Scottish Government. Is there an argument that more money should be forthcoming to go some way to address the £800 million-plus backlog in capital expenditure?