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Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 17 April 2024
Russell Findlay
Hi, Maggie. Thank you for joining us.
You described your ordeal with the police complaints process as like being on a hamster wheel, and a previous witness described it as “a hellish merry-go-round”. I suppose that what both descriptions have in common is the idea of an endless circularity to the process, and it seems to have been designed that way.
Another common feature of what we have heard is the way in which, at the outset, the police are able to be selective about how they categorise complaints. That categorisation sets the tone for everything from that point, in terms of how something is dealt with internally and how the police might represent the issue to the PIRC or, indeed, the Crown. Do you think that it could be helpful for the bill to include much greater transparency around that crucial early moment? It might include that already, but I am not entirely sure that it does, to be honest.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 17 April 2024
Russell Findlay
Some people who have not experienced what you, Stephanie Bonner, Bill Johnstone and others have experienced might find what we are talking about quite extraordinary. Police Scotland is very effective at telling the public that all is largely well, and it is absolutely the case that the vast majority of police officers do an incredibly difficult job with the greatest of integrity. Can you explain why you think that Police Scotland, or any police force or, indeed, big organisation, might seek to waste people’s time and public money on a process such as the one that you have described when, in fact, doing the right thing would be more efficient and better for their reputation in the long term?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 27 March 2024
Russell Findlay
John Swinney is not the convener of this committee. That is not his role.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 27 March 2024
Russell Findlay
My question directly relates to the evidence that the minister has already given, and it is pertinent to why we are sitting here talking about this.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 27 March 2024
Russell Findlay
There was no obvious “end quote” in the telling of it.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 27 March 2024
Russell Findlay
I genuinely did not know where it was—
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 27 March 2024
Russell Findlay
I will have to go back to compare and contrast the two things.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 27 March 2024
Russell Findlay
I am looking to the convener to see whether we are allowed to have a whole debate about the issue, because I suspect that we might not be.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 27 March 2024
Russell Findlay
So you do not believe in this legislation.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 27 March 2024
Russell Findlay
We believe in the legislation. We support it, but if you are saying that it is about deed, not breed—[Interruption.] I am sorry, but John Swinney is trying to interrupt. I would like to ask the minister a question.