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Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 29 May 2024
Russell Findlay
So there is no plan to change direction—the duty of candour in the bill will apply to civilian staff, and that will not be changed.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 29 May 2024
Russell Findlay
So Unison, in taking its position, has perhaps misunderstood the legislation.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 29 May 2024
Russell Findlay
Is there a technical reason why you cannot do it, or are you opposed to the suggestion that the PIRC should be answerable and accountable to the Parliament?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 29 May 2024
Russell Findlay
It might be, but Dame Elish called for a change in status in the legislation, and that is not happening.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 29 May 2024
Russell Findlay
The Finance and Public Administration Committee raised concerns about the bill’s cost, which is projected to have risen from £1.4 million to £5.8 million—possibly higher. I have read the Official Reports of finance committee meetings, and it seems that we are a bunch of softies compared to it, during its recent exchanges with you.
The finance committee convener said that the Scottish Government provided the committee with
“figures that it knew were completely inaccurate.”—[Official Report, Finance and Public Administration Committee, 7 May 2024; c 52.]
He wrote to the Presiding Officer on 16 April to say that the Scottish Government had known for six months that the figures were out of date, but that it did not tell the committee. That is quite a charge. How do you respond to that and how can we trust the new figure of £5.8 million?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 29 May 2024
Russell Findlay
What about the specific charge that the Government had known that for six months and did not tell the committee?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 29 May 2024
Russell Findlay
HMICS takes a different view. It believes that the PIRC should have that power and, furthermore, that that power should also be given to the SPA. That would give officers in Scotland the option of going to the PIRC or the SPA. It sounds as though you are more minded not to go down the route of making the PIRC a prescribed organisation.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 29 May 2024
Russell Findlay
Does it not concern you slightly that Unison is saying that, if the duty of candour applies in that respect, all those civilian staff—6,000 of them—will be a regulated workforce in the same way as police officers are, and they will expect a pay rise?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 23 May 2024
Russell Findlay
Sections 2 and 3 of the bill relate to the code of ethics and the duty of candour. You are supportive of those for both police officers and staff. Does that include all staff?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 23 May 2024
Russell Findlay
Sorry to interrupt—so that would be to give an officer more options.