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Criminal Justice Committee

Access to Court Transcripts

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Russell Findlay

Ellie Wilson is a rape victim who has been very vocal, and has been campaigning, on this subject. I declare an interest, as she used to work for me. In the past couple of days, she has made it known that she has now acquired some of the transcripts that she was seeking, but she had to resort to crowdfunding to make that affordable. I do not know what the costs were, but I think, from what the committee learned previously, that they were quite significant.

In the response from Keith Brown, there is at least some acknowledgement that this is an important and serious issue. One could be cynical and say that putting information on a webpage to explain that there is a process is not great progress, but it is progress. It shows that people have somewhere to begin.

Keith Brown talks about the potential route of making a subject access request as opposed to seeking a full transcript; I do not know how that would work in practice. He also talks about exploring new technology. I assume that he means software that transcribes automatically, which I have used; it is perhaps not as good as it will ultimately be. It has been talked about and considered, but where we go next, I am not entirely sure.

Criminal Justice Committee

Transgender Prisoners and Scottish Prisons

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Russell Findlay

But if this goes to the heart of—

Criminal Justice Committee

Transgender Prisoners and Scottish Prisons

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Russell Findlay

We have very little time.

Criminal Justice Committee

Transgender Prisoners and Scottish Prisons

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Russell Findlay

I echo what the cabinet secretary said: we are not suggesting that trans women inherently pose some kind of threat. The issue has always been about predatory men exploiting gender self-identification. Indeed, that is why we are here to talk about this particular case.

A victim of this male-bodied double rapist—and his wife—has said that his claim to be trans is a “sham”. Cabinet secretary, you told the BBC that, in this case, you need to accept that people identify as women. Nicola Sturgeon has repeatedly been unable to answer this particular question in relation to this individual. Kate Forbes has said:

“No rapist can be a woman. Isla Bryson is a man”.

Who is right?

Criminal Justice Committee

Transgender Prisoners and Scottish Prisons

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Russell Findlay

And it explained that the justice secretary and the First Minister had concerns.

Criminal Justice Committee

Transgender Prisoners and Scottish Prisons

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Russell Findlay

The representation that was made to you was more general—as in, “We have these concerns”—and was not a suggestion that you should act in a certain way.

Criminal Justice Committee

Transgender Prisoners and Scottish Prisons

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Russell Findlay

Going back to the contact, was that conversation instigated by Government officials?

Criminal Justice Committee

Transgender Prisoners and Scottish Prisons

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Russell Findlay

Was the call from the justice directorate?

Criminal Justice Committee

Transgender Prisoners and Scottish Prisons

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Russell Findlay

Okay. Given the amount of time that we have, I do not want to—

Criminal Justice Committee

Transgender Prisoners and Scottish Prisons

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Russell Findlay

Even though this was quite a high-profile and on-going High Court case, and people were aware of the issue, nobody had informed you.