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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 June 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

I will also pick up on some of the questions that I asked at the very end of the earlier evidence session, about groups giving out information to people who are going past. The leaflets that I was provided with in the earlier session had gross medical inaccuracies, which is quite concerning, and there is no policing of that type of information. What are your thoughts about the information that is potentially being given to people?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

I declare an interest as a practising national health service GP. I would like to separate silent prayer and protest, and I want to ask about protest to start with. Dr Pickering has said that he would not support placards, shouting and the use of pictures of aborted fetuses. Isabel Vaughan-Spruce spoke about how she does not organise a protest but a vigil. Is everyone in agreement that protest, in the way that I have described it and in the way that Dr Pickering has described it, is something that should not happen outside an abortion clinic?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

It was Eljamel.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

Yes.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

I am asking whether you feel that it is right that we are not able to protest other things outside of a hospital.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

I declare an interest as a practising NHS GP.

Catriona McMillan, I will focus on you quite a lot. I am sorry about that. I will ask about other protests that could be stopped. We heard previously from the police and a solicitor that the bill might stop any protest about anything—for example, about Eljamel. Is that your understanding?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

I have people coming to me as a GP, and I know that there are clearly a lot of factors involved. It is not simply a medical procedure.

I have another question for you, Stephen. The information in one of the leaflets took me to the 40 Days for Life campaign. On the website that I landed on, it says:

“With God’s help, here are the proven results in 30 coordinated campaigns: over 100 abortion centres closed.”

Is that the point of the protests—to close abortion centres?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

I will also ask about private homes. Our understanding is that, if you are in a private home within the buffer zone, you cannot put graphic images or other such protest material or pro-abortion material—it goes either way—in your windows or around your garden to influence people. Is that proportionate and is it the same in other jurisdictions, such as England and Wales and Northern Ireland?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

I will open that question up to the rest of the panel. Do you feel that the private home section of the bill is proportionate?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

Yes—in the same way that Dr Pickering described the things that he would not support.