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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 August 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care (Self-directed Support) (Scotland) Act 2013 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

That is relevant to what was said earlier about people coming out of university and not being trained highly enough, especially around self-directed support, and the fact that there is no protected time for social workers to do some learning, even though people in every profession need to continue to do professional development.

Training more people is one thing, but we also have to retain them. What can we do to retain social workers and stop them leaving the profession?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Health Service Waiting Times

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

Okay. It seems rather disappointing that the strategy talks about

“opportunities for redesign of ways of working”

when surely IT, including basic IT, is the most important way of redesigning for interface.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care (Self-directed Support) (Scotland) Act 2013 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

I declare an interest as a practising NHS GP. This question is for Dr Kellock. We have strategies such as the dementia strategy, we have the Promise and we have the proposal for a national care service. There are times when those policies will rub up against one another. How will we be able to navigate our way through that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care (Self-directed Support) (Scotland) Act 2013 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

Dr Kellock, I have a number of very direct questions, so it is fair enough if you do not know the answers. How many social workers do we have in Scotland?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care (Self-directed Support) (Scotland) Act 2013 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

It is safe to say that social workers are not sitting idle; they are very busy doing what they do. Some 40 per cent of social workers reported that their workload was unmanageable; 70 per cent of social workers reported that they could not complete their work in their contracted hours; and 20 per cent of the social work workforce left in 2020, with 40 per cent planning to leave in the next three years. On top of that, rural areas find it hard to recruit and train social workers.

However, everything that I see coming through from the Scottish Government requires social workers. For example, the implementation of the Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill requires 500 social workers. So, even with more money coming in to be spent, if we do not have the necessary number of social workers and the ones that we have leave after only six or seven years, how can we possibly implement policies successfully?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Health Service Waiting Times

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

You are right. Lots of friends of mine who are orthopaedic surgeons say that they are over the moon if they have an all-day operating list. They do not get to operate as an orthopaedic surgeon or general surgeon. I used to be an orthopaedic trainee, and those guys train so that they can operate. If they are just getting a day a week of operating time, that is simply not good enough. It is not the fault of the surgeons. They are desperate to operate, but many of them are not getting to do so. If you are not getting into theatre to operate on patients, how on earth can we clear the backlog?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Health Service Waiting Times

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

My question is for Katie Cuthbertson and is about IT. Your website shows that you are involved in that. How long have we been trying to get IT systems to talk to each other?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Health Service Waiting Times

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

Okay. On the NHS’s engagement with technology—I am talking about all technology—what work are you doing to standardise the way in which companies can come in and say, “Let us get approval with either yourselves or with a health board” and not have to do that on a repeated and significantly different basis with all health boards?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care (Self-directed Support) (Scotland) Act 2013 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

On your point about social workers dealing with people in crisis, in my conversations with social workers, they tell me that the fun has gone from their jobs and that, whereas, previously, they were seen as somebody who helps and ensures that people do not get to the point of crisis, all they are doing now is crisis management and they are often seen as the bad person—the person you do not want to come knocking on your door. That is quite a step change for them. How can we make the job what it should be, which is about prevention?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care (Self-directed Support) (Scotland) Act 2013 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

On the subject of training and social workers coming into the workforce, do we know how many are being trained each year? Is there any significant increase on what that number was in the past?