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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 5 December 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 October 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

Would anyone else like to comment?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 October 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

Could we provide the right to independent living right now, without the bill?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 October 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

Does anyone else have an opinion?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 October 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

No? Okay.

Given that the bill is a framework bill and that we do not have details of how it will actually come into effect, does it represent the best way of delivering for carers and for people who receive care? Do you think that there might be another, simpler, way of doing that, which gives people clarity? I am directly asking for a lawyer’s opinion on that, if that is okay.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 October 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

That was my final question.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 October 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

Would anyone else like to respond?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 October 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

This will be my last question as I am aware that we are desperately tight for time. Fiona Davies spoke about this being a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, but we also heard from Julie Murray that the bill will not achieve some of its stated aims and objectives and that it is not quite achieving what the Feeley report wanted it to. Therefore, is the bill, as it has been set out for a second time, going to deliver for social care exactly what was intended and what you would like it to deliver?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 October 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

That is a very non-committal answer, and that does not seem to suggest that you have confidence in the bill—correct me if I am wrong. Do you have confidence in this bill to deliver exactly what you have just said?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 October 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

The stated intention of a bill and what is actually written in the bill could potentially be two different things, but I will move on, in the interests of time, as I am not getting an answer on that.

I have a question for the other panel members. At last week’s meeting, we were told that the bill is unique in that it unites most of civic Scotland against it. We are also seeing reports that COSLA no longer supports the bill. Given those two important factors relating to key partners, do you think that the bill, as it stands, is dead in the water?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 October 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

Would anyone else like to comment?