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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 30 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I share Ross Greer’s concern, but I also appreciate the recognition for the staff concerned that the minister has put on the record.

I have two questions, the first of which builds on the answers that the minister gave to John Mason. What, specifically, is his vision for a co-ordinated approach? How does he hope that the colleges in the region will collaborate to provide the best opportunity for skills across the region?

Secondly, when can colleges in Glasgow expect to receive any of the funds—to the tune of about £500,000, I think—that were top sliced for the board?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you—I appreciate that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I do not think that anyone has put it to us that bureaucratic structural change is necessary in order to address what does not work well.

I can see that Mr Mott is looking to come in—I will just finish my point. One of the concerns that we have heard about the move is that SDS has stronger links with business and industry than the Scottish Funding Council. The minister spoke about the need for a connection between careers advice in schools, national skills planning and apprenticeships. That will all be dismantled if we take one part of the SDS product and put it elsewhere.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Is the bill the Government’s answer to its inability to provide the leadership that is needed through the organisations that currently exist? That is what it sounds like.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

The Public and Commercial Services Union said that skills planning would be more difficult, because you would be pulling out a key part of an organisation that has links to employers and putting it into another organisation, which would leave the careers service without those crucial links. That contradicts your view.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Another thing that businesses have told us is that the system needs to be much more agile and flexible. If the Government is going to take a colleges-first approach, there needs to be a different relationship and offering that will enable business to access what it needs to from colleges and empower colleges to be agile. What will the bill do to change any of that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Women’s Enterprise Scotland has said that engagement with women’s businesses is not what it should be, and that the bill does not do anything to address that. What is the minister’s response to that, and what can he foresee as being a solution in the bill?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

On the engagement that the minister says he has had, SFC staff who are Unite the Union members said that staff were told what would happen without being part of the conversation, PCS said that the reform programme is happening to staff and not with them, and Unison said that the bill has placed its members in a state of limbo. Finally, PCS said that the bill is not the solution to the current state of skills delivery in Scotland.

Does the minister accept that there has been a failure by the Government to take staff with it on this journey and, as a result, that might be some of the reason why the committee has heard that the problems that exist will not necessarily be resolved by the bill?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

How will the new model reduce bureaucracy and untie your hands?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

The colleges might have concerns about planning for the transition and then being able to engage in some of the collaborative activity that the minister might have seen on his visit yesterday or discussed with them, because some of that might have a cost attached to it. I want to identify that each college might need to consider that.