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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
You also said that there was perhaps missing information. Could that not be because some of the people who had that information were excluded from court?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
A number of people—this comes out in the Gillies report—have said that they felt that it was quite difficult to raise concerns and that views were suppressed at times. Is that perhaps why they felt that it was difficult to give the information to court? The chair of court should surely want to create a culture in which people can ask questions and be inquisitive about decisions. However, it does not appear that that was the case—so much so that, when they did not ask questions, you decided that they should not come to court.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
I am afraid that some of that does not quite add up. Dr McGeorge and Peter Fotheringham, you have both said that you used the information available to you to draw the conclusions that you did and to make the decisions that you made about recruitment, that you were told nothing else about the circumstances and that things might have been different had you been given different information. Is it fair of me to say that?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Peter Fotheringham, you said earlier that information about the financial picture was not necessarily easily available to you in August and September 2024. Baroness Alexander asked you to show her the management accounts at that point and got no reply, and those accounts were absent from the information that was shared with UEG and the court. Why was that?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
I will be really brief, convener.
Amanda Millar, can you explain why you agreed to expenses that were outwith the expenses policy for the principal?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
When the cash concern had dropped to about £32 million and that issue was raised with the financial director, his response was, “Don’t worry about that.”
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
So, at some point, you will have had some involvement in the sign-off process for those minutes.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
So, are none of those assertions correct?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
What does it say?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Dr McGeorge, we have spoken about this before and other members have asked questions about it. During all of this, staff were recruited, and a number of staff may lose their jobs as a result of some of the decisions that senior management took. The Gillies report says:
“The failure of the University’s financial governance system was self-inflicted and experienced multiple times and at multiple levels.”
What is your response to that?