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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Has the minister considered any other ways or mechanisms to apply the equivalence of the 6 per cent uprate to disabled people in Scotland or carers who receive carers allowance in Scotland? Have you looked at any other mechanisms that could be used to get that money into people’s pockets?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you for allowing me to ask a question, convener—I know that I said in advance that I might not have one. I have two questions, if that is okay.

Obviously, we face a considerable cost of living crisis right now, and I believe that the measures are well meaning and the right thing to do. To use a phrase that the IFS witness used earlier, the measures are well meaning but not well designed, given the way that you have done it. I worry slightly that the papers that the committee got last Thursday suggested that you were going to replicate the rates and in some areas were not going to uprate at all. What has changed between last Thursday and today to take you to the decision that you have made? I do not think that it is the wrong decision, but I am keen to know that we are taking decisions properly with robust information and in a considered fashion.

My next question is on the benefits that are still being delivered under agency agreement and that we are being asked to uprate today with CPI, which is 3.1 per cent. I guess that this is not so much a question and more of a statement, but I just want to put it on the record, because it is another frustration of mine. We could have been doing something a bit differently had we been delivering those benefits fully in Scotland. What you intend to do on 31 March in other areas shows what we could have been doing for disabled people and carers if we had not still been using agency agreements.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Medium-term Financial Strategy and Resource Spending Review Framework

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Probably to both witnesses, but I will not need a question later, if that helps for time.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Medium-term Financial Strategy and Resource Spending Review Framework

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you; that is helpful.

The Government has indicated that it will begin to review some of the eligibility criteria around the 20m rule this year. When would you expect to see some of the details on the costings for that? What timescale should we be looking at? I am conscious of David Phillips’s answer about when you would expect to see financial decisions as well as policy decisions. It would be good to know what you think about that.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Medium-term Financial Strategy and Resource Spending Review Framework

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you—it does. If there is a review and the Government is serious about changing the policy, I would like to know that the money was available or where the Government was going to get it and how soon we should expect detail on that.

My other questions are for both of you. The Cabinet Secretary for Finance and the Economy said that she wants to make “intelligent decisions” on social security. Will you set out how that could be done, whether the Government has the data to do it and what the timescales involved in intelligent decision making on social security should be? That is related to the point that we have just spoken about.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Department for Work and Pensions (Devolved Social Security)

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Good morning, minister and officials. It is good to meet you. I want to start on disability benefit reform, but with a word of caution about the workplace statistics that you shared. Those statistics may hide some inequalities in the workforce and in the workplace, and they also may be people getting into work that is not secure in the long term or that does not guarantee more than a few hours—in some cases, zero hours. I ask that some of that data also be considered, so that we make sure that the whole economy and everyone in it is doing better, not just some of us.

On disability benefit reform, I am keen to ask about access to work and where that sits. Does the minister believe that some of the changes that were made during the pandemic around the electronic submission of claims and so on, which were quite useful in ensuring that a number of disabled people were able to access work, could be made permanent?

I have two further questions, but they are short.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Department for Work and Pensions (Devolved Social Security)

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Have you at any point insisted on adult disability payment eligibility criteria and descriptors remaining unchanged from those that are used in PIP?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Department for Work and Pensions (Devolved Social Security)

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Unsurprisingly, I also have a point on the SSI on uprating carers allowance. Although any increase is welcome, I am still disappointed that it is only £4 and that the Government has not looked at the adequacy of carers allowance any sooner than it has. I want to put on record that £4 is welcome, because it is an increase, but it is absolutely nowhere near enough. I hope that the Scottish Government moves as quickly as possible to address the rate of carers allowance and eligibility for it. I will of course vote for the SSI.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Department for Work and Pensions (Devolved Social Security)

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Of course. Has the Scottish Government raised with you changing the 20m rule in the eligibility criteria for the mobility component of ADP as a priority?