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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

That is fair. Thank you.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I appreciate that.

Frazer Scott, you said that you would vote for anything that improved the benefit system; I share that view. Do you think that this change will improve the benefit system?

09:30  

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Good morning, Mark and Frazer, and thank you for your advance submissions and your answers to our questions so far.

Some of the questions that I had have already been answered, so, in the interests of time, I will not repeat them. I will start with a question for Mark, if that is okay.

SCOSS’s report says that breaking the link with cold weather is retrogressive in terms of human rights. Can you explain that a bit more? As far as I can tell, the Scottish Government’s answer to that seems to be that the unreliability of cold weather is difficult for low-income families and that a predictable one-off payment is better. How do you respond to that point, given the comments about human rights?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

No, I do not think so. I asked about the unreliability of the cold weather, which you touched on. Do you have more to add to that?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Do you know how many people will lose out?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I will be quick, too. Does either of you have a view about why having a qualifying date was suggested, as opposed to the previous approach?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Energy Action Scotland’s written submission notes that the winter heating payment

“provides less impact on fuel poverty than the benefit it replaces”.

In addition to what you have said about the geographical impacts, Frazer, can you expand on that point so that we have an understanding of the gaps in addressing fuel poverty that this version of the payment creates?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I appreciate that.

I have a quick question for Mark Simpson on the same theme. In your response, and again a few moments ago, you noted that there needs to be a review of the fuel payment infrastructure in Scotland. Have you discussed that with the Scottish Government, and can you comment on whether it is likely to—or wants to—do that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 6 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

What is your view on the Scottish Government’s response to the recommendations?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 6 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I have one further question about staffing and resources. In your opening statement, you mentioned that you are a “lean” organisation and you said that you hope to build up to having 14.5 members of staff during the coming year. We will talk more about the incorporation of the new human rights bill, but if that was required, do you think that you would need to exceed that number of staff for further incorporation, and do you have a sense of why you are leaner? Are you proportionately leaner, or do you have less resource and staff?

10:15