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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 October 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you. Someone else will probably ask questions on definitions, but is there a need to amend the legislation in that respect, and/or do we need more guidance and communication regarding who is covered?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Do any of you have a view on whether further detail on advocacy should be in regulations or in the bill, or should some be left to regulations, with more in the bill? What should the balance be?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I am sorry, minister, but the timescales that have been assessed as being appropriate have been in place since the Parliament was set up. As you have rightly pointed out, other Parliaments use the same process. Why has the Government not figured out the costs within six months, in negotiations with the member?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I have to say, minister, that I am quite uncomfortable with the line of questioning that we have just pursued on the difficulties with meeting the requirements of pupils with ASN—and affordability with regard to pupils with ASN—and with coming to an agreement in the timescales. The fact is that Parliament agreed this legislation at stage 1 and agreed that all of these issues should be discussed, and I myself made it clear in committee, both to yourself, minister, and to the member in charge, that the issues for pupils with ASN would have to be considered very carefully.

For me, an important aspect of the bill is that pupils with ASN are able to access this sort of education, including the sorts of experiences that have just been discussed. However, that was a discussion for stage 1. If the Government was so worried about that, the Government should not have voted for the bill. Did the Government abstain because it was not prepared to take the backlash for voting against a bill that not just the public but the Parliament quite clearly wanted?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Finally, then, on pupils with ASN, what advice have you, as the minister in charge of the bill, given to Cabinet?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Okay. Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Similar to the conversations that we have had, a number of organisations have said in their submissions that the aftercare provisions could go further. Others have raised concerns about estimated costs—I know that other members of the committee will ask about the financial memorandum. How do you think that the provisions on aftercare could be improved?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

The evidence that you have provided is really helpful and clear. Do you imagine that a greater proportion of cases will go to a sheriff in the absence of a grounds hearing, or do you not see that as a concern at all?