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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 March 2026
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Affordable Housing

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Ariane Burgess

Under the next item, we will take evidence on affordable housing. We will discuss the topic with two panels today. The first panel focuses on the rural context. We are joined by Donna Birrell, chief executive officer of Rural Stirling Housing Association; Roslyn Clarke, director of Applecross Community Company; Mark Rodgers, executive chief officer in housing and property at Highland Council; and Mike Staples, chief executive of South of Scotland Community Housing. Donna Birrell and Roslyn Clarke join us online. I welcome you all to the meeting.

It would be helpful if members could direct their questions to a specific witness, if possible, although I will be happy to bring in others who want to contribute—if you want to comment, please indicate that to me or to the clerk, and I will bring you in at an appropriate point. Donna Birrell and Roslyn Clarke can indicate that they want to comment by typing R in the chat function in BlueJeans.

I will begin with a question for all four witnesses. What are the challenges to delivering affordable homes in your areas of operation? How are you addressing the challenges? Can you share good examples? I will start with Donna Birrell.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Affordable Housing

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Ariane Burgess

Miles Briggs has some questions.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Affordable Housing

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thank you very much for that answer, which included even more useful detail. It is quite astounding to hear about the land issues that you have experienced.

I have a few more questions, after which I will bring in other members. I will start by directing my next questions to Mark Rodgers, but I ask other witnesses to indicate should they wish to come in. To what extent does the existing housing funding and planning system help to meet the specific challenges of developing affordable homes in rural areas? How successfully has the Scottish Government helped to address such challenges?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Affordable Housing

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Ariane Burgess

I direct the next question also to the Scottish Futures Trust; the two witnesses can divide it between themselves. We are curious to know how your work is enabling the development of strategic housing sites and any lessons that can be learned.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Affordable Housing

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Ariane Burgess

It is very good to hear that from the community’s perspective. Your company is volunteer led, and it can be challenging to hold that over time.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Affordable Housing

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Ariane Burgess

I want to unpack assumptions and go a bit deeper. You started to touch on the fact that community enablers support communities to do the delivery of their housing, but why is the model of community-led housing so important? It has kind of been said, but it would be good to articulate that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Affordable Housing

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thank you. Perhaps Neil Rutherford from the Scottish Futures Trust can go next.

11:15  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Affordable Housing

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thank you very much for that. Mike Staples, do you have anything to add? You do not have to, but I want to give you the opportunity to do so.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Ariane Burgess

I thank the minister and his officials for that helpful discussion. As we agreed at the start of the meeting, we will take the next item of business in private.

13:14 Meeting continued in private until 13:25.  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Ariane Burgess

The next item on our agenda is evidence on the regulations from Patrick Harvie, Minister for Zero Carbon Buildings, Active Travel and Tenants’ Rights, and from the Scottish Government officials David Blair, programme director on cladding remediation; Steven Scott, head of the technical unit for building standards; and Dr Stephen Garvin, head of building standards.

I welcome the minister and his supporting officials to the meeting. At last week’s meeting, we had an interesting discussion about the regulations with stakeholders in which we touched on a number of issues relating to fire safety in buildings more generally, along with challenges in respect of access to insurance. Members will be aware that, on Thursday 12 May, the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Housing and Local Government made a ministerial statement providing an update on the single building assessment programme.

Before I open up to questions from committee members, I invite the minister to make a short opening statement.