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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 20 October 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Ariane Burgess

We have lots of questions, so I will go to Christina Gaiger and then Barbara Cummins, who has not spoken yet. If we have time, I will try to bring Robbie Calvert back in. However, I would like to move on.

09:45  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Ariane Burgess

Welcome back. We will continue to take evidence as part of the scrutiny of NPF4. I welcome our second panel of witnesses: Dr Caroline Brown is a lecturer in environmental planning and healthy environments at Heriot-Watt University; Professor Cliff Hague is emeritus professor of planning and spatial development at Heriot-Watt University, and chair of the Cockburn Association; and Professor Leigh Sparks is deputy principal and professor of retail studies at the institute for retail studies at the University of Stirling.

Thank you for joining us. We have already had a rich evidence session with the previous panel and are looking forward to hearing from you. We will move straight to questions. We tend to direct our questions to one person initially, but if any other witnesses want to come in,?they should please put an R in the chat function. If we start to run out of time, witnesses may be asked to come to a point to ensure that all questions are answered.

I will kick off with the first question, which I will direct to Dr Caroline Brown first.? The draft NPF4 represents a significant shift in national planning policy, with a new focus on issues of place, liveability, wellbeing and emissions reduction. Will the Scottish planning system be able to deliver those ambitious outcomes?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Ariane Burgess

Before I bring in Ailsa Macfarlane I will add to my questions. We have a couple of national policies that focus on climate and nature restoration. I would like to get a sense of whether you believe that the goals for climate change and emission reductions in the draft framework are achievable and consistent with other policies that are in it. I ask Ailsa Macfarlane to respond to my first question about whether the planning system is set up to deliver the outcomes and to give her thoughts on the climate emission reductions piece.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Ariane Burgess

I thank all of you. It is good to hear your perspectives on MHATLR, which we are trying to get our heads around.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Ariane Burgess

You are on, Ailsa—oh, there is no audio yet. It is not you; broadcasting handles everything.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Ariane Burgess

Does anybody want to answer that question about monitoring and reviewing?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Ariane Burgess

I see that everybody wants in on this one.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thank you for your reply and for keeping it brief. I was digressing a little bit. I keep hearing that planning departments are stretched, and we are looking for the opportunities to put some ease into the system.

I will move on and bring in Mark Griffin, who has a question for the witnesses.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Ariane Burgess

That was very clear; thank you.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Ariane Burgess

Our second agenda item is consideration of the Council Tax (Dwellings and Part Residential Subjects) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 2021. The instrument is subject to the negative procedure, so there is no requirement for the committee to make any recommendations on it.

As no member wishes to comment on the instrument, does the committee agree that it does not wish to make any recommendations in relation to the instrument?

Members indicated agreement.