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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 July 2025
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

The point is that, although people might not use hounds now and Mr Hogg would never use a hound, somebody might do so once the legislation comes into play. We are not talking about how people are doing this at the moment.

I totally get the “one for the pot” idea. That is all well and good, but when the legislation comes in, it might be used by people who consciously choose to find a way through it by saying, “We’re on a rough shoot.” That is what they will plan to do, and they will not be people who genuinely want to do rough shooting, but people who want to have a mounted hunt.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

We heard earlier about the types of dogs that are used. Surely you would have a range of dogs, such as Labradors and spaniels. We have talked about the loophole and how it might be used. However, people who were fox hunting would have hounds, so that would be a clear indication and a way for the police to see the difference between a rough shoot being used as a smokescreen and a genuine rough shoot. Potentially, you could tell it by the type of dog.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

I do not know enough about dogs, but would it be possible in the future to train Labradors or spaniels—[Interruption.] That is what I am wondering, but from the expression on your faces, I guess that the answer is definitely not. There is an issue that we really need to get into. We are talking about dogs that will work as a pack. Could dogs that are owned by and in the control of separate people on a rough shoot potentially form a pack?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

So, the provisions could be enforced by saying that there is a difference between the types of dogs.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

I am aware that—[Inaudible.]—and I wanted to see whether he wants to come in on anything. We have not heard from him yet and I want to afford him the opportunity to speak to anything that has come up. I noticed some of his expressions, and I would love to hear his perspective.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

Willie Coffey has a supplementary.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

On the local place plan issue, how will it all fit together? There are local development plans. It is great that Jim Miller talked about pausing them. What is the sequencing? How do we get communities on board and alert to the opportunity to make a local place plan? How does that feed into the local development plan? Is there timing for that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

Okay. On the ones that are being developed already, will people need to go back and reconsider some of what they have been doing in light of NPF4?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

I am aware that a town near where I live has been very busy on what would not have been called a local place plan, as they did not exist for some years. Very good work is being done, but people will probably have to go back and see how it works with NPF4.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

We will now go to Annie Wells, who has a question or two.