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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 September 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Ariane Burgess

You would not get on the wrong side of me, minister. It was directed at my colleague Miles Briggs. It is just that there is another convener in the Parliament who uses his pen to get the members to wind up, and I thought that I perhaps need to start using that code as well. [Laughter.]

We have gone over our time, but one thing that concerns me is orphan buildings. I am thinking not so much about the past, but about the future. Do we have something in place, or are we going to put something in place to address that? If a company goes out of business, we will get an orphan building. Are there measures that we can put in place to make sure that buildings can be reassessed? When we talked about the subject last year, I think that it was Chris Ashurst who brought up the idea of an MOT. Is there something that we can do to ensure that, when a developer builds a building, we can always link it back and check up on them so that we do not end up with orphan buildings?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Ariane Burgess

Something like that—yes.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Ariane Burgess

That is very helpful. It is concerning to hear that there is a lot of worry and wondering about the system and processes.

You talked about it being possible to offer a mortgage at the EWS1 point but there being the SBA in the background. How could we move forward from that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Ariane Burgess

So, a bit more nuance is needed.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Ariane Burgess

Great. Thanks very much.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Ariane Burgess

Good morning and welcome to the 16th meeting in 2023 of the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee. The first item on our agenda is to decide whether to take items 3 and 4 in private. Do members agree to do so?

Members indicated agreement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Ariane Burgess

That is helpful. Thank you very much for that detail.

Miles Briggs wants to come in on something else.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Ariane Burgess

Yes.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thanks, minister, for your awareness about working closely with us. That is much appreciated.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Ariane Burgess

You talked about skills and the time that it will take to train people. How long will that take? Stephen, you talked about training to degree level. Will the training that people have to undergo take, say, a year?