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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 17 December 2024
Ariane Burgess
Thank you, Mark. I now bring in Willie Coffey.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 17 December 2024
Ariane Burgess
When we went to visit Argyll and Bute Council and had discussions with it, we heard about the wider issues beyond building supply.
In your opening statement, you mentioned Gypsy Traveller sites. We heard last week that the regulator could be stronger on Gypsy Traveller sites and you said in your opening statement that you are now of the view that the Scottish Government should review the standards for Gypsy Traveller sites. I am interested to hear a bit more about what you think needs to happen and what benefits that might bring, as briefly as possible.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 17 December 2024
Ariane Burgess
Good morning, and welcome to the 36th meeting in 2024 of the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee. Mark Griffin is joining us online, and we have received apologies from Meghan Gallacher.
I welcome Evelyn Tweed MSP and Paul Sweeney MSP, both of whom are joining us for our evidence session with the Scottish Housing Regulator.
I remind all members and witnesses to ensure that their devices are on silent.
The first item on our agenda is a decision on taking items 3 to 7 in private. Do members agree to take those items in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 17 December 2024
Ariane Burgess
Thank you. It was helpful of you to outline the three key areas that you are focused on, which members will certainly want to ask you about.
You will be aware that, this time round, we have taken a deeper-dive approach, not only with your work and your annual report, but with the work of the Scottish Public Services Ombudsman. That approach has been welcomed. There is nothing like getting feedback and other perspectives to understand situations. We have a number of questions based on what we have heard.
Previous witnesses told the committee about their concerns about the Scottish Housing Regulator being
“heavy handed or insufficiently justified”
in some of its decisions. We also heard that there might be a perception of fear of the regulator, especially among smaller RSLs. Do you recognise those concerns? How can you ensure that the SHR is perceived to be an open organisation that can be trusted by everyone?
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 17 December 2024
Ariane Burgess
You said that you have hundreds of engagements and that there were 110 last year. Do you mean the year that we are in or the one before?
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 17 December 2024
Ariane Burgess
I will continue with that theme. You said that it can be challenging for staff to deliver difficult messages. We heard in previous evidence that there is some variation among regulation managers in interpretation of the regulatory standard. I am interested to hear how you ensure that regulation managers take a consistent and transparent approach to applying standards.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 17 December 2024
Ariane Burgess
I am going to give a bit of a time warning. We have quite a few questions to get through, so I ask that all of us try to be as succinct as possible with questions and answers, although they are on very important issues.
Mark Griffin joins us online and has a number of questions.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 17 December 2024
Ariane Burgess
That’s it—systemically important. Those are the larger groups. That is not all of them, however. There is, perhaps, a missing forum that needs to be convened to bring people together.
Alexander Stewart has a supplementary question in this area.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 17 December 2024
Ariane Burgess
It is helpful to hear that the Scottish Government could use its envelope of funding differently to improve the standards. We might come back to you for a bit more detail on various aspects of that.
I will now bring in Evelyn Tweed. You have up to 10 minutes, Evelyn.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 17 December 2024
Ariane Burgess
I bring in Emma Roddick—very briefly.