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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 13 September 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 26 June 2024

Ariane Burgess

You have mentioned a couple of times SEPA’s five-year approach to looking at the data and monitoring the situation. The REC Committee’s and the working group’s reports recommended a precautionary approach to mitigate any impacts of sea lice infestation on wild salmon, and I am interested in whether you believe that the sea lice risk framework applies such an approach. We have heard about the five-year timescale, but are there other aspects of what is being done that you can share with us?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 26 June 2024

Ariane Burgess

So, there is an issue with where we get the snapshot of information, because we are not seeing the full experience of that fish.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 26 June 2024

Ariane Burgess

Having the various sectors work together seems to be an important part of what we are trying to do here, such as in the collaboration that we discussed earlier. Everyone should have access to the information that we have, so that we are all looking at the same picture.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 26 June 2024

Ariane Burgess

Good morning, John, and thanks for joining us.

I have a question on the precautionary principle. The REC Committee’s and interactions working group’s reports recommended the need for a precautionary approach to mitigate any impacts of sea lice infestation on wild salmon. I am interested in getting from you a sense of whether SEPA’s sea lice risk framework applies such an approach, given that, as I think you said, it is the only one of your recommendations that has been put in place since you produced your report.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 26 June 2024

Ariane Burgess

I have one last question about the measurement of the amount of sea lice, which is related to the precautionary approach. Last week, we heard from SEPA that it is taking a case-by-case approach to the levels of sea lice on fish farms, but we know that Norway has taken an approach that involves a limit of 0.2 sea lice per female salmon. What are your thoughts on whether a broad approach like Norway’s or a case-by-approach is the appropriate one for Scotland?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 26 June 2024

Ariane Burgess

Good morning. Recommendation 44 of the RECC report was that

“mechanisms to encourage ... collaboration between the sectors should be further developed and introduced.”

The report also recommended that

“the Scottish Government’s wild salmon interactions group should, as part of its work, address this matter as a priority”.

Is it your sense that there has been improvement in relation to collaboration and the transparency aspect of collaboration and information sharing between the two sectors since 2018? If you have any examples of good practice, it would be great to hear them.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 26 June 2024

Ariane Burgess

That forum is the formal mechanism that you are asking for. Who should take that forward?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 26 June 2024

Ariane Burgess

Okay. Thank you.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 26 June 2024

Ariane Burgess

I asked our previous witness about the no deterioration approach. SEPA says that it can prevent deterioration of wild salmon populations by allowing the highest-risk farms to continue to have sea lice levels as high as their recent levels, instead of reducing them. Do you think that that will prevent wild salmon numbers from falling due to sea lice?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 26 June 2024

Ariane Burgess

I come back to your earlier comment that SEPA needs to take a cumulative approach. It has said that it is taking more of a case-by-case approach. Can you say a bit more about why you think it needs to be cumulative?