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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 August 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Ariane Burgess

I call Rachel Hamilton to wind up and to press or withdraw amendment 223.

15:30  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Ariane Burgess

There will be a division.

For

Gallacher, Meghan (Central Scotland) (Con)
Griffin, Mark (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Stewart, Alexander (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)

Against

Burgess, Ariane (Highlands and Islands) (Green)
Coffey, Willie (Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley) (SNP)
MacGregor, Fulton (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP)
Stevenson, Collette (East Kilbride) (SNP)

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Ariane Burgess

The result of the division is: For 4, Against 3, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 179 agreed to.

Section 29, as amended, agreed to.

After section 29

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Ariane Burgess

Fulton, in subsequent votes, I ask that you please put your hand closer to your face to indicate your choice when we are voting.

The result of the division is: For 4, Against 3, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 177 agreed to.

Amendment 178 moved—[Meghan Gallagher].

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Ariane Burgess

The committee can commit to keeping the matter under review, too.

The issue of planning fees fits into the bigger picture of the challenges that we have discussed around resources for local planning authorities. One feature of that bigger picture is the fact that not enough new planners are coming in through the pipeline, which is related to the lack of places for people to train as planners in Scotland.

It is a moving piece, with lots of parts. I note in our papers for this morning that it is hoped that the fees will lead to better applications in the first place; however, I have been picking up, certainly in my regional work, that planners used to meet developers and go on site, but that seems to be happening less. The experience for developers now, especially for SMEs—certainly in the Highlands and Islands; maybe it is a distance issue—is that they are not getting on-site information and good up-front insight as to what the local planning authority is looking for in relation to building height, roofing materials and so on. As we have more planners retiring and younger people coming in, we are possibly losing something if there is no transfer of knowledge.

There is something in the mix there, which is beyond these SSIs—I understand that—but I want to put that out there and get your thoughts on it.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Ariane Burgess

There will be a division.

For

Gallacher, Meghan (Central Scotland) (Con)
Stewart, Alexander (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)

Against

Burgess, Ariane (Highlands and Islands) (Green)
Coffey, Willie (Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley) (SNP)
Griffin, Mark (Central Scotland) (Lab)
MacGregor, Fulton (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP)
Roddick, Emma (Highlands and Islands) (SNP)

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Ariane Burgess

Good morning, and welcome to the 16th meeting in 2025 of the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee. I remind all members and witnesses to ensure that their devices are on silent.

Today’s agenda includes consideration of the Housing (Scotland) Bill at stage 2. We have permission to continue our meeting into the afternoon, so we will be suspending proceedings at around 12:30 until 20 past 2. We might therefore pause item 4 to take item 5 and then return to item 4 after the suspension.

First we have an evidence-taking session on the Town and Country Planning (Fees for Appeals) (Scotland) Regulations 2025 and the Town and Country Planning (Fees for Local Reviews) (Scotland) Regulations 2025.

I welcome to the meeting Ivan McKee, the Minister for Public Finance, who is joined by the following Scottish Government officials: Thomas Barratt, head of development management; Scott Ferrie, deputy director and chief reporter, planning and environmental appeals; Andy Kinnaird, head of transforming planning; and Chris Sinclair, policy manager. Thank you for coming.

We will move to questions from members, and I will start. We have heard from developers that the introduction of fees for planning appeals and reviews could act as a disincentive to development, including the development of much-needed new homes. I would be interested to hear your response to that suggestion, minister.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Ariane Burgess

Okay. Thank you.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Ariane Burgess

The result of the division is: For 6, Against 1, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 374 agreed to.

Amendments 375 to 377 moved—[Shirley-Anne Somerville]—and agreed to.

Section 31, as amended, agreed to.

Sections 32 to 37 agreed to.

After section 37

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Ariane Burgess

There will be a division.

For

Burgess, Ariane (Highlands and Islands) (Green)
Griffin, Mark (Central Scotland) (Lab)

Against

Coffey, Willie (Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley) (SNP)
Gallacher, Meghan (Central Scotland) (Con)
MacGregor, Fulton (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP)
Roddick, Emma (Highlands and Islands) (SNP)
Stewart, Alexander (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)