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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 22 September 2021
Stephen Kerr
We have a number of questions about the communications dimension, which we really want to understand more about.
Audrey, do you want to come in?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 22 September 2021
Stephen Kerr
Did you catch the whole question?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 22 September 2021
Stephen Kerr
We are going to have evidence later from the NASUWT—I have to get these acronyms right. It talks a lot about the “compression” that you have been describing in terms of assessment, how difficult it was—“impossible”, it says—for teachers to complete all the work that they were asked to do, including the quality assurance and certification, and about the effect that that had on the teachers. I am sure that you are conscious of that.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 22 September 2021
Stephen Kerr
Welcome back. We will hear further evidence on the alternative certification model from our second panel of witnesses. I welcome Larry Flanagan, general secretary of the Educational Institute of Scotland; Seamus Searson, general secretary of the Scottish Secondary Teachers Association; and Tara Lillis, national official for Scotland at the NASUWT.
Thank you for providing us with your written submissions, which are very interesting and useful. We have a lot of ground to cover and not as much time as we would like, so we will move straight to questions unless any of you has something short and specific that you would like to say first. I see that you are all happy to move straight to questions.
Larry, you state on page 3 of your written submission that
“the Scottish Government or the SQA ... were determined to push ahead with national sampling of all courses”.
Did you ask for a rationale or a justification at the time for the Government’s determination to push on with that? If so, what did it say to you?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 22 September 2021
Stephen Kerr
Thank you for asking that question. I, too, have had representation from students in colleges who are reporting similar experiences to the ones that you just described.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 22 September 2021
Stephen Kerr
I quoted earlier the statistic from your survey that 36 per cent of teachers believed that the evidence that they collected truly demonstrated people’s attainment, which means 64 per cent did not believe that. That is a startling statistic.
We will go to Bob Doris for questions for the remaining 10 minutes.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 22 September 2021
Stephen Kerr
I thank Larry Flanagan, Seamus Searson and Tara Lillis, who have been our panellists for the past hour and a half. We really appreciate your giving us your time. We thank you for not just your oral evidence but the written evidence that you submitted in advance of the meeting, for which we are very grateful.
We will conclude our evidence taking on the alternative certification model next week, when we will take evidence from the Scottish Qualifications Authority.
The public part of today’s meeting is now at an end. We will consider our final two agenda items in private.
12:40 Meeting continued in private until 12:57.Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 22 September 2021
Stephen Kerr
Audrey, do you want to comment on whether there should have been more guidance, or less?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 22 September 2021
Stephen Kerr
We will come back to that issue. I think that Audrey May was saying that some of the criticisms are a little bit after the event. It was a very difficult situation that people were managing their way through.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 22 September 2021
Stephen Kerr
Thinking back to that period, were you looking for more guidance than you got at the time?