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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 May 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Upper Secondary Education and Student Assessment

Meeting date: 10 November 2021

Stephen Kerr

Stephanie Callaghan talked about entering politics later on in life. I, too, entered politics later, having previously been an employer, and I agree with what you have said. I suspect that you are also right that the complaints that employers are making these days about the suitability of candidates who turn up for interviews and the internal assessments that they conduct were being made 100 years ago. However, do you agree that employers and universities have a very important voice in this debate?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Upper Secondary Education and Student Assessment

Meeting date: 10 November 2021

Stephen Kerr

I will address directly with you, if I may, part of the struggle that employers have with the education system, to see whether it accords with your experience. Employers sometimes feel that there is a snobbery in the educational establishment about vocational training and about the types of disciplines and professional skills that they are looking for in candidates whom they wish to recruit. Do you agree? Have you come across that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Upper Secondary Education and Student Assessment

Meeting date: 10 November 2021

Stephen Kerr

Thank you, I am enjoying your transparent honesty about what you have discovered. Kaukab Stewart, the deputy convener, will ask the next questions.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Upper Secondary Education and Student Assessment

Meeting date: 10 November 2021

Stephen Kerr

James was obviously sharing his views on his colleague’s point of view. I hope that we will be able to maintain a degree of good manners, which I think we have done so far.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Upper Secondary Education and Student Assessment

Meeting date: 10 November 2021

Stephen Kerr

I am sorry to interrupt you, Stephanie, but perhaps you would reprise your question to Professor Stobart. We lost you for a few seconds, which broke up the question.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Upper Secondary Education and Student Assessment

Meeting date: 10 November 2021

Stephen Kerr

Bob, would you like to come back in or are you content?

11:15  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Upper Secondary Education and Student Assessment

Meeting date: 10 November 2021

Stephen Kerr

We really thank you, Professor Stobart. We have put you through your paces over the past hour and three quarters, and you have given us lots to think about. It has been a robust session. It has been honest, frank and fair. On behalf of all members, I thank you for your paper and your presence at the committee.

The public part of today’s meeting is now at an end. I ask members to reconvene on Microsoft Teams, which will allow us to consider our next agenda items in private.

11:16 Meeting continued in private until 11:47.  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Upper Secondary Education and Student Assessment

Meeting date: 10 November 2021

Stephen Kerr

I will allow one more supplementary question. I appeal to colleagues to make supplementaries really short and pithy.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Upper Secondary Education and Student Assessment

Meeting date: 10 November 2021

Stephen Kerr

Stephanie Callaghan has the next line of questions.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Upper Secondary Education and Student Assessment

Meeting date: 10 November 2021

Stephen Kerr

Absolutely. I am delighted to facilitate that. You might be speaking for a number of the rest of us as well. We will suspend for about five minutes.

10:36 Meeting suspended.  

10:41 On resuming—