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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

But you cannot underestimate the value of the data that you have referred to in enabling you to accomplish your objectives.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

I think that Willie Rennie was asking whether there was any other barrier than the technical aspects.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

Michael Marra has a quick supplementary question. I hope that it is not about Boris Johnson.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

That brings us to the end of the public part of today’s meeting. I thank the cabinet secretary and her officials for giving us their time today.

10:58 Meeting continued in private until 12:05.  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

Of course.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

Fergus Ewing has a quick supplementary question.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

The committee must now produce its report on the draft instrument. Are members content to delegate responsibility to the deputy convener and me to agree that report on behalf of the committee?

Members indicated agreement.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

I am not aware that I, as the convener, am not permitted to express my own views. If someone objects to that, they can talk to me later.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

Thank you very much, cabinet secretary.

Last week, we had a morning of compelling evidence from a variety of different witnesses, including—most compellingly of all, I felt—the office of the Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland.

In its written submission, the commissioner’s office expressed concerns—which were affirmed by Megan Farr, who appeared in person before the committee last week—that the proposals in the bill do not conform with article 15 of the European convention on human rights and with article 4 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. In relation to human rights at times of emergency, it was recognised that states can use powers but that those powers are “not unlimited”. The submission says:

“Any emergency powers must be lawful, necessary, proportionate and time limited. They must be limited to the extent strictly required by the situation.”

That is not the case with the bill. Last week, it was alluded to that, if the bill became law, a case could be taken to court on the legislation, which could be found to be unlawful.

My question is very simple: is the Scottish Government listening to any of that evidence, including the evidence from the Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland, and will it take any of it on board?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

Good morning, and welcome to the eighth meeting in 2022 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee.

We have received apologies from Ross Greer.

I welcome Graeme Dey, who is attending the committee for the first time as a committee substitute. Mr Dey, I invite you to declare any interests that are relevant to the remit of this committee.