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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education Reform

Meeting date: 23 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

I have one more question before we go back to Willie Rennie. [Interruption.] I beg your pardon. We have a question from Michael Marra.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education Reform

Meeting date: 23 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

I would like to say that this will be a quick question, but it probably will not be. We will try to deal with it quickly.

You have—deliberately, I think—made it your first recommendation that there should be a national discussion about the future of curriculum for excellence in the light of the OECD’s commentary on curriculum for excellence. You say:

“There was generally agreement with the OECD that CfE is still part of the direction of travel and confirmation that its underpinning philosophy was still sound.”

You go on to say that

“there was also a clear message”

about the requirement for change. You quote your consultation finding that 58 per cent agreed

“that the vision for CfE reflects what matters for the education of children and young people in Scotland.”

Will you comment on the second-top finding in your consultation? When asked to agree whether curriculum for excellence gives the best possible educational experience for our young people and enables them to realise their ambitions, only 22 per cent—one in five—felt able to agree with that statement.

When you talk about change, Professor Muir, surely we should be looking at a major overhaul of curriculum for excellence if it is failing to deliver the best possible educational experience and to help young people to realise their ambitions.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education Reform

Meeting date: 23 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

And then take the appropriate action, yes?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education Reform

Meeting date: 23 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

I call Oliver Mundell, who is participating remotely. We will not have the privilege of seeing Oliver, because he has broadband problems; we will only hear him.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education Reform

Meeting date: 23 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

Can you repeat the last question, Oliver?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education Reform

Meeting date: 23 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

The SQA had a function to carry out, so there is still a need for such a body, hence your recommendation that a new body be created. It sounds to me that we are really talking about culture. The organisation’s culture had gone wrong—it had gone adrift. Culture is ultimately the responsibility of the SQA’s leadership. Has the leadership of the SQA sailed the boat on to the rocks?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

I thank the minister and her officials for their attendance and suspend the meeting to allow them to leave.

09:14 Meeting suspended.  

09:15 On resuming—  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

It was a very bad example, and I am afraid that it was very poor judgment on your part to say that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

I say to the cabinet secretary that she was the one who launched into Boris Johnson a few minutes ago. Perhaps we all need to rise to the occasion. That is a comment that can be made of all of us.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

I hear all of that, but I think that you are—