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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 28 November 2023
Kaukab Stewart
Before we move on to our second evidence panel of the morning, I ask for any declarations of interest.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 28 November 2023
Kaukab Stewart
Thank you very much. We have come to the end of our evidence session, but I want to give you the opportunity to bring anything to the committee’s attention that we have not covered. This is your time.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 28 November 2023
Kaukab Stewart
Thank you, once again, for your evidence.
That concludes our business in public. We will consider the remaining item on our agenda in private.
11:40 Meeting continued in private until 12:07.Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 28 November 2023
Kaukab Stewart
The other question was about the Legal Services Board. Lord Ericht mentioned the different system for England and Wales. Thank you for explaining that. The evidence from Chris Kenny was that there was no evidence that independent regulation has damaged the independence of the legal profession in England and Wales. What is your view on that?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 28 November 2023
Kaukab Stewart
We have time, so I am happy to bring in Oliver Mundell, from the DPLR Committee, for a question.
10:30Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 28 November 2023
Kaukab Stewart
Absolutely.
That concludes the committee’s questions. Do you have any final points that you wish to make?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 28 November 2023
Kaukab Stewart
On behalf of the committee, I thank you for giving up your time this morning. We appreciate how busy you are. Your evidence has been valuable.
I suspend the meeting briefly to allow for a change of witnesses.
10:49 Meeting suspended.Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 28 November 2023
Kaukab Stewart
I bring in Paul O’Kane.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 28 November 2023
Kaukab Stewart
Yes, as is the usual experience.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 28 November 2023
Kaukab Stewart
That is interesting. Earlier this morning, the committee heard about the situation in which a citizen might want to sue the Government. However, what about the consumer—the person on the street—who might want to sue their lawyer because they have not received a good service? What I have heard, albeit anecdotally—but also through constituency work, because people know that the committee is dealing with this so they come to talk to me—is that some people have not had good experiences. They feel that they are up against a whole system and that that system looks after itself. Did you speak to individuals or look at such casework? Can you give us an example of that?