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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 4 March 2026
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Funeral Support Payment

Meeting date: 19 February 2026

Collette Stevenson

I think that John Halliday wants to come in, and then I will bring in Jim Brodie.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Funeral Support Payment

Meeting date: 19 February 2026

Collette Stevenson

Thank you—that is a good point.

I see that John Halliday wants to come back in.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Funeral Support Payment

Meeting date: 19 February 2026

Collette Stevenson

Thank you very much, John. I am just conscious of the time, so I will try to wrap things up.

I thank everyone for their evidence today—I could sit here listening to you for longer, and could ask you lots of questions. However, from what we have heard, I think that what lies at the heart of this is people and ensuring that they can have a dignified celebration of their life.

We will now have a chat about what we have discussed, but if you have any other points that you did not have a chance to put forward, you are welcome to follow them up in writing.

I know you are all very busy, so I conclude the committee’s public business and move the meeting into private session.

10:47

Meeting continued in private until 11:22.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 February 2026

Collette Stevenson

Thank you, cabinet secretary. We will now move to questions. Our questions on both instruments will be directed to you, but I reiterate that you are welcome to invite any officials to respond, should you wish to do so. I invite Jeremy Balfour to ask the first question.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 February 2026

Collette Stevenson

I thank the cabinet secretary and her officials for providing evidence today.

I suspend the meeting to allow for a change of witnesses.

09:11

Meeting suspended.

09:12

On resuming—

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Funeral Support Payment

Meeting date: 19 February 2026

Collette Stevenson

Based on what I have heard, I will try to turn the question around. Given that the majority of awards of funeral support payment already go directly to funeral directors, would removing the claimant choice entirely be proportionate to the scale of the issue that you are describing?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Funeral Support Payment

Meeting date: 19 February 2026

Collette Stevenson

The next item of business is a round-table discussion on the funeral support payment. I welcome our witnesses to the meeting. With us, we have: Adam Stachura, director of policy, communications and external affairs, Age Scotland; John Halliday, chair, Caledonia Funeral Aid; Jim Brodie, managing director, Brodies Funeral Services, who is also attending on behalf of the National Association of Funeral Directors; Gerry Boyle, regional manager, Dignity Funeral Directors; and Andrew Purves, chief operating officer and director, William Purves Funeral Directors.

The meeting is in a round-table format, which we hope will enable a free-flowing conversation. The committee is very much in listening mode today—because I told members earlier that that is what will happen—so, if you wish to speak, please do so.

We intend to address four main themes, and we have about an hour and 15 minutes, give or take, in which to do so. I encourage members and witnesses to be as succinct as possible in their questions and answers.

I will introduce the first theme, which concerns the issue of whether the funeral support payment is made to the client or the funeral director. I want to specifically address the effects of giving clients a choice about whether the funeral support payment is made directly to them or to the funeral director. From the information that we have received, we know that around 60 per cent of payments are already issued directly to funeral directors. However, we have also heard concerns from some stakeholders about non-payment and potential financial risk. I am keen to explore the scale of the risk and the extent of the issue, whether the evidence supports any structural change and whether there are any proportionate alternatives that protect bereaved families and funeral providers. My first question is, are we talking about a small minority of cases, or is the issue more widespread? Jim Brodie, would you like to come in on that?

09:15

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Funeral Support Payment

Meeting date: 19 February 2026

Collette Stevenson

That is okay.

Before we move on, I remind Jeremy Balfour that it he wants to come in he should first declare his interests.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Funeral Support Payment

Meeting date: 19 February 2026

Collette Stevenson

Thank you for that information. Gerry, do you want to come back in?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Funeral Support Payment

Meeting date: 19 February 2026

Collette Stevenson

That brings us to our final theme. I invite Alexander Stewart to facilitate that.