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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Elena Whitham

Thank you for that. I see that Ailsa Macfarlane and Clare Symonds would like to come in. We are only halfway through our questions, so if you could make only additional comments that would be great.

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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Elena Whitham

That is interesting. The local authority in my area revised its numbers upwards, which was to do with Covid in-migration. Flexibility must be looked at in relation to all such issues.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Elena Whitham

That is great, Dr Brown, and it is a really good segue into the question that I have for Professor Sparks.

A huge driver behind the draft NPF4 is living locally. Given your expertise on retail, Professor Sparks, do you think that the framework will drive local investment in planning, or will we still end up with out-of-town retail as opposed to in-town retail?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Elena Whitham

Thank you. That is a really interesting point that we need to take on board. Clare, do you have any thoughts on that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Elena Whitham

Thank you—although I will come straight back to you, because my last question is for you. My question is on the minimum all-tenure housing land requirement as set out in the draft NPF 4, which is there to support a consistent and more simple and transparent planning system for housing. I know that Planning Democracy has already submitted thoughts on that; we have also touched on it this morning. Do we need to make changes in order to achieve the aims of simplicity, consistency and transparency in housing land requirement? I would welcome your thoughts on that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Elena Whitham

Before I ask my questions, I refer everybody to my entry in the register of members’ interests. I am still a serving councillor on East Ayrshire Council.

I direct my first question to Robbie Calvert, because he was the first person to mention the issue this morning, although it has since been mentioned several times. Written submissions have raised concerns about the wording of national planning policy. We can think about things that have already been mentioned, including 20-minute neighbourhoods, community wealth building, carbon emissions and human rights. I brought up the issue with the chief planner last week, and I want to explore it. Is the wording insufficiently clear for decision-making purposes? How can it be improved? We have already heard this morning that it could lead to appeals and a very interpretation-based system. Do you have any suggestions and concrete thinking on how the wording could be improved?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Elena Whitham

What you have said is helpful, and it echoes a lot of my feelings on the issue.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Elena Whitham

That is great; thank you very much for that.

My next question is for Christina Gaiger, because she has already raised the issue. I want to explore the tension relating to use of existing buildings and places—in particular, the need to protect the historic built environment while also allowing the adaptations that are necessary in order to reduce carbon emissions. Does the draft NPF4 pay sufficient attention to the tension between the two competing issues?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee (Virtual)

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Elena Whitham

I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests—I am a councillor on East Ayrshire Council.

Before I ask my question, I would like to revisit community benefits, briefly. Will NPF4 and any guidance help local authorities to zoom out of the picture when there are multiple applications for house building in a specific area? How can councils ensure that they make best use of developer contributions? Sometimes, there are multiple applications for thousands of houses in a very small space from different applicants. I am concerned that, sometimes, that does not translate into the best use of the contributions.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee (Virtual)

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Elena Whitham

Thank you for that. Policy 4 states:

“Planning should respect, protect and fulfil human rights, seek to eliminate discrimination and promote equality.”

As a councillor, I know that those are outcomes that councillors have policies and plans to promote. Could you explain what it means in practice for planning officers and councillors on planning committees? It is perhaps not something that is at the forefront of their minds when taking planning decisions—they may not think that it is a material consideration.

On the language that is used, where it says “should”, is that the same as “must”? Perhaps Andy Kinnaird could pick up on that.