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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 2 March 2022
Jim Fairlie
Professor Heath, you said at the start that there is no way to mitigate predation. I think that you mentioned pulling the trigger on it. However, we heard an awful lot from the witnesses in our previous evidence session about predation by dogfish and various other species including seals. If 2 million young cod are being taken out by nephrops nets, are you saying that there is no way back for cod in the cod box?
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 2 March 2022
Jim Fairlie
My question is for Simon Macdonald. What other measures should we take to protect the cod stock?
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 2 March 2022
Jim Fairlie
I thank the witnesses for coming along. There are clearly very strong feelings on the matter.
There seem to be an awful lot of competing pressures on the cod box. Lots of different types of boats seem to be going out. How do we get the balance right in order to support the three boats that Elaine Whyte mentioned? I am now even more concerned that we do not have Government scientists here, because the witnesses clearly have questions that they want those scientists to answer.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 2 March 2022
Jim Fairlie
From the evidence and reasoning that you have seen, do you feel that the Scottish Government was justified in putting in the cod box in the first place?
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 2 March 2022
Jim Fairlie
But the other assumption is that, if you move them, they will not lay any eggs.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 2 March 2022
Jim Fairlie
My apologies—I misunderstood you.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 2 March 2022
Jim Fairlie
On the point that you have just made—I am speaking purely from a layman’s point of view—we heard earlier from Simon Macdonald about creel fishermen not having any effect at all on spawning. He seemed to be saying that noise was a big disturber of spawning fish. I will come back to that point later.
What research and data monitoring do we need in order to ensure that we have the proper evidence to protect the cod recovery measures? I know that that is a big question.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 2 March 2022
Jim Fairlie
To me, protecting the spawning is the same as protecting the fish from being caught. If the fish are being caught, they are not laying eggs, but if they are laying eggs and those eggs are being disturbed, the effect will be the same, surely.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 2 March 2022
Jim Fairlie
According to the evidence that we were given this morning, noise is a problem for fish that are laying eggs. If the fish do not lay the eggs, you do not get the young fish. It is a dual problem, as far as I can see.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 2 March 2022
Jim Fairlie
Okay, we will need to take some scientific evidence to make sure that we know what we are talking about here. I cannot get away from the fact that, if you get the eggs laid and the young fish hatch, they will be predated upon and we will get bycatch. I understand all that. However, if the cod move because of noise, all of that will not necessarily happen. If a bird lays an egg in a nest and gets disturbed, she leaves the eggs and the eggs do not hatch. Either way, you get the same level of loss, and I would like to get more evidence on what the reality of that is.