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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 23 March 2026
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 March 2022

Jim Fairlie

Thank you. I think that you wanted to come in, Abbey. Please be very quick, though, as we are getting short of time.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 March 2022

Jim Fairlie

So, people who fear and oppose the bill could not say that it would allow the Government to force people to get a vaccination, but if someone came into the country with an infectious disease that we do not have a control for, it would allow the Government to take action on that. Is that a fair assessment of what you have said?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 March 2022

Jim Fairlie

The witnesses have already given us a huge amount to think about. Professor de Londras, you talked about forcing people to have a medical intervention. Will you clarify what that means, please?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 March 2022

Jim Fairlie

Thank you. I want to pick up on a second point—I am sorry for jumping about a bit; I have written spider-scribble notes all over the place.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 March 2022

Jim Fairlie

That raises another question that I had not thought about. If the Coronavirus Act 2020 expires, would that remove the Scottish Parliament’s ability to make provision in the event of another outbreak of an infectious disease?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 March 2022

Jim Fairlie

We are talking about debt in broad terms. It strikes me that debt is one of the most significant strains on a person’s mental wellbeing—it is a massive issue. We are talking in abstract terms about the power to serve documents to a bankruptcy process electronically or by post and so on. All of those discussions are abstract, but we must keep in our minds that this issue is about people and what they are living through.

We have probably now covered the matter of whether the documents should be issued electronically or by post. We have also covered the power to hold meetings remotely or in a physical location. Dealing with those issues is the purpose of the bill. However, I would like to get a general sense of how you feel that people are coping with their debt right now, given the circumstances that we are living in. Abbey Fleming, would you like to talk about that first?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Jim Fairlie

That is where I was going next. What do you suggest should be done? Picking up on what you said about the nephrops bycatch, if there are only 3.5 million fish in the cod box and those nets are taking out 2 million every year, that is a huge amount of fish. What do we do to protect the cod?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Jim Fairlie

I understand that, but, at the end of the day, what you are trying to do is produce more young fish. If, as we were told earlier, noise is a real problem in relation to allowing cod to settle, those cod will move. If they are moving, they are not laying eggs, which means that the eggs are not there in the first place and, therefore, you will not get young fish. The issue involves understanding whether the shift from catching to disturbance is really such a dichotomy, or whether both things are equally important.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Jim Fairlie

I understand that, but, if they do not lay eggs in the first place, the young are not going to be there. It is a chicken-and-egg situation.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Jim Fairlie

In the future, how should we balance all the competing pressures relating to cod, creel and trawlers?