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COVID-19 Recovery Committee
Meeting date: 17 November 2022
Jim Fairlie
I will move on. I go back to the point of our session today, which is to work out why people are leaving the workforce. I want to bring in the issue of long Covid. Is it right that Anna Ritchie Allan has some specific views on what we need to do with long Covid?
COVID-19 Recovery Committee
Meeting date: 17 November 2022
Jim Fairlie
It clearly was not directed at you.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 16 November 2022
Jim Fairlie
You talk about the person who is using the dog. There will be two people using the dog if there is a shooter and a picker-upper. If a person is walking with the dogs that flush the game—whatever that happens to be—and somebody else shoots the game, that means that two people are using the dog.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 16 November 2022
Jim Fairlie
So, they are both responsible for the dog’s actions.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 16 November 2022
Jim Fairlie
May I come back in on that, convener?
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 16 November 2022
Jim Fairlie
Okay.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 16 November 2022
Jim Fairlie
I am sorry to labour the point about the definition of working in a pack. If there were four people with eight dogs, each of those four people had two dogs, and each of them could individually call back any dog that was within the area, would that be regarded as a pack or as four people working independently? Does that make sense?
Let me put that in the context of a shoot. If there are guys walking—whether or not they have guns in their hands—with eight dogs with the purpose of flushing prey, their dogs will work the ground while they are walking. That is called quartering. They will be quartering a particular bit of ground, and they will cross over one another and cross back again. If, at any time, a dog flushed anything that was running and the owner of that dog or the person who was working that dog whistled and the dog stopped to allow the prey to run, would that dog be deemed to be working individually to the owner or working in a pack when there are eight dogs on the ground at the same time? That issue is really important.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 16 November 2022
Jim Fairlie
Are the two tied in, so that a driven shoot is exactly the same as a rough shoot for the purposes of the bill?
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 16 November 2022
Jim Fairlie
Does that come back to the point that, if you have the intent to flush, you will use a particular type of dog? I know that the bill does not specify the type of dog, but the issue comes down to intent. If someone was flushing with lurchers or foxhounds, the intent would be to flush a particular type of animal. If someone was flushing in a game-shooting situation, there would be better control, on the basis that it was a rough shoot rather than what we would recognise as a normal hunt.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 16 November 2022
Jim Fairlie
We will come back to that when we deal with enforcement.