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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 29 October 2024
Jim Fairlie
We are in the process of working towards getting stuff done now. We are a long way down the road. I was not in the Parliament when the act was passed, so I do not know why it has taken us so long to get to this point from 2019, but we are where we are and work is being done right now. Conversations are being had about allowing the memorandums of understanding to be established so that we know what the guidance looks like.
If the regulations are passed, we will proceed at pace to get the work done as quickly as we can. I ask Sharon Wood or Bridget Bryden to speak about the timescale for progress. If we get the regulations through today, what will be the timescale for the next stage? Where would we go from here?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 29 October 2024
Jim Fairlie
I would need to consider that.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 29 October 2024
Jim Fairlie
I could turn that round and ask, “If it is not the traffic commissioner, then who?” Who would be the decision maker? Do you want the decision to come back to ministers? That would bring the matter back into the political sphere. It was decided in 2019 that it would be taken out of the politicians’ hands, and that is where we are.
I am sorry, but what was the second part of your question, Monica? I did not write it down. I apologise.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 29 October 2024
Jim Fairlie
A consultation is on-going at the moment with—
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 29 October 2024
Jim Fairlie
Sorry—my apologies. Let me correct the record. They will be consulting shortly on whether they are going to go for the franchising model.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 29 October 2024
Jim Fairlie
Absolutely—we want to get it right. However, I go back to a point that I made previously. If we stop and we do not proceed with the measures that are before us, we will potentially go back to square 1.
On the evidence that you heard from Mr Bray and the proposals that were rejected, there had been a recommendation, as opposed to a final decision. We could turn that round the other way: if a transport authority knows that the final decision could be taken out of its hands, then—going back to the point that I made to Mr Lumsden—it will make damn sure that it gets it right in the first place. It will therefore do all the work and the due diligence that it needs to do to ensure that, when it presents its proposal to the panel, it has done absolutely everything within its power.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 29 October 2024
Jim Fairlie
No. The panel will be required to make its decision within a six-month period, although it will be up to whoever is presenting the franchising proposal to ensure that they have done all the work that they need to do for it to be progressed.
We are taking a belt-and-braces approach. Anyone who cuts corners will get stopped, so why start in the first place? It is a matter of having certainty that someone else is taking another look—and they might say, “You didn’t do that bit.” Those who are making a proposal should therefore do it right in the first place.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 29 October 2024
Jim Fairlie
The approach that was taken there was based on the financial model alone; it did not take the whole picture into account. That is the fundamental difference. The proposal there was rejected on the basis of a financial model.
Clearly, the financial model is a really important aspect. We want to ensure that the business case has been made to the fullest extent, and it will include everything else. We are not comparing apples with apples here; we are comparing two different things.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 29 October 2024
Jim Fairlie
If we carry on with the legislation as it is, there will be a panel, regardless. That goes back to the point that Mr Lumsden made. [Interruption.] I will let you finish your point. I apologise; that was rude.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 29 October 2024
Jim Fairlie
I did not speak to the transport secretary when I learned that the motion to annul was being lodged. I looked at the concerns and at why this was becoming an issue. I take on board the issues, but I go back to the primary point that I made, which is that if the committee does not pass the SSI, that will set us back considerably.