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Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 15 December 2021
Audrey Nicoll
That is certainly an area that I am interested in watching closely as it develops. We have time for one more question. I will bring in Rona Mackay to cover the option for a pilot run of single judge rape trials.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 15 December 2021
Audrey Nicoll
I bring in Jamie Greene on that issue, followed by Katy Clark.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 15 December 2021
Audrey Nicoll
Thank you very much, Mr Graham. I am pleased to hear that update on the visual recording of interviews, in particular. I take your point about the challenge of that being part of a system change.
On pushing ahead with some of those changes, do you have a timeframe for what requires to be done to put visual recording in place, particularly for serious sexual offences interviews?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 15 December 2021
Audrey Nicoll
Good morning, and welcome to the 14th meeting of the Criminal Justice Committee in 2021. We have received no apologies. I ask everyone to ensure that their mobile phones are switched to silent and to wait for the sound engineer to switch their microphones on before they speak.
Our first item of business is to agree whether to take agenda item 5 in private and whether our work programme, reviews of evidence heard and approach to forthcoming legislation should be considered in private at future meetings. Does anyone disagree?
We are agreed. Thank you.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 15 December 2021
Audrey Nicoll
I move swiftly on. Fulton MacGregor has questions about trauma-informed training, albeit that we have been covering that off.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 15 December 2021
Audrey Nicoll
Yes. We can extend the meeting by about 15 minutes but I remind everyone that succinct questions and answers would be helpful.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 15 December 2021
Audrey Nicoll
Thank you, cabinet secretary. I appreciate those comprehensive opening comments. Before we move to questions again, I remind members and witnesses to keep questions and answers as succinct as possible.
I will kick things off with a general question relating to your recent announcement regarding the establishment of the governance group to progress the detailed consideration of the Lord Justice Clerk’s recommendations. Can you outline in a little more detail the remit and timetable for the work of the governance group? In particular, how will you ensure that the group’s work does not duplicate the review that has already taken place and that it focuses on making real progress on the review recommendations and how to take them forward?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 15 December 2021
Audrey Nicoll
Katy Clark and Rona Mackay have some follow-up questions about the governance group.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 15 December 2021
Audrey Nicoll
Thank you very much for giving us your time, cabinet secretary—it is very much appreciated. As we always do, we have run out of time. We appreciate your forbearance in letting us run over a little. The same goes for Mr Cowan. There are some other questions that we would like to have asked, but we will follow that up in writing.
We will have a short suspension before we move on to the next agenda item.
11:51 Meeting suspended.Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 15 December 2021
Audrey Nicoll
Thank you, cabinet secretary. Just for clarity, those remarks were in relation to the Judicial Review and Courts Bill. That is absolutely fine. Could you also make your remarks in relation to the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill LCM? We can take any questions after that.