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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 May 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 6 October 2021

Audrey Nicoll

Ms McNeill, do you want to come in on this subject?

Criminal Justice Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 6 October 2021

Audrey Nicoll

Good morning, everybody, and welcome to the seventh meeting in 2021 of the Criminal Justice Committee. Apologies have been received from Katy Clark.

The first agenda item is to decide whether to take in private items 4 and 5, which are to consider today’s evidence and to discuss our work programme. Do we agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 6 October 2021

Audrey Nicoll

That perhaps covers my follow-up question, which was about how specialist criminal law firms might need to change their model of practice and what budget considerations might need to be taken into account to allow that to happen. Do you want to add anything on that?

12:00  

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 6 October 2021

Audrey Nicoll

That is a helpful response.

Criminal Justice Committee

Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill

Meeting date: 6 October 2021

Audrey Nicoll

That concludes the public part of our meeting. Our next meeting will be on Wednesday 27 October, when we will hold a round-table evidence session on the role of the Scottish criminal justice sector in tackling the misuse of drugs.

12:41 Meeting continued in private until 13:06.  

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 6 October 2021

Audrey Nicoll

I wonder whether post-Covid recovery provides an opportunity and could be used as a platform for reform. That brings me on to issues around changing demand. There has to be a balance between how we promote reform and the change in demand on the police service. In the report “Five year financial planning”, you talk about changing demand arising from the changing nature of crime, community expectations and needs and so on. We recently visited the Scottish crime campus and had quite a helpful discussion about the challenges of recruiting specialist staff to tackle, for example, cybercrime. Bearing that in mind, what might be the budgetary implications around changing demand and the specialist nature of some of that new demand? How might that impact on budgetary considerations?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 6 October 2021

Audrey Nicoll

I ask members to confine their questions to budgetary issues. I am afraid that you are going—

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 6 October 2021

Audrey Nicoll

Mr Lancaster, thank you for your attendance today; it has been most helpful. If there is anything you wish to follow up on, please feel free to do so in writing. The committee will also take that evidence into account.

We will take a short break to let Mr Lancaster leave before we move on to the next item.

12:38 Meeting suspended.  

12:39 On resuming—  

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 6 October 2021

Audrey Nicoll

I am aware that this is a really important topic and that there are a lot of moving parts at play, but I ask that we try to keep to time so that we can cover as much ground as possible.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 6 October 2021

Audrey Nicoll

I will bring in Collette Stevenson.