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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 May 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 26 January 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Good morning, everybody, and welcome to the third meeting in 2022 of the Criminal Justice? Committee. There are no apologies. I ask that members ensure that their mobile phones are switched to silent and that they wait for the sound engineer to switch on their microphone before speaking.

Agenda item 1 is a decision on taking business in private. Do members agree to take item 4 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 26 January 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Agenda item 2 is consideration of two petitions that were referred to the Justice Committee in the previous parliamentary session and which were carried over into this session. I refer members to paper 1. I should say that this is the first time that we have looked at the petitions since the Criminal Justice Committee was established. I will shortly invite members to give their thoughts.

I will start with PE1370, which was lodged by Dr Jim Swire on behalf of the Justice for Megrahi campaign group. This important petition calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to open an independent inquiry into the conviction of the late Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi for the bombing of Pan Am flight 103 in December 1988.

The previous committee kept the petition open and, in effect, placed it on hold pending the conclusion of the different inquiries and various legal cases that were being pursued in the courts. The committee members felt that they could not?make a decision?on the merits of the petition until those processes had been concluded.

As the clerk’s paper notes, some but not all of the legal processes have been completed. Members will note the letter that was received yesterday from Iain McKie on behalf of the Justice for Megrahi committee, which confirms that the family of Mr al-Megrahi continue to seek a Supreme Court opinion. We are grateful to Mr McKie for the helpful update.

My suggestion for the committee is likely to be that we continue to keep the petition open until we are clearer about what steps, if any, the family of Mr al-Megrahi plan to take in relation to any appeal to the Supreme Court.

I invite views and comments from members.

Criminal Justice Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 26 January 2022

Audrey Nicoll

That is helpful.

Criminal Justice Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 26 January 2022

Audrey Nicoll

I am grateful for members’ comments and views. On the basis of those points, we agree to keep the petition open until we are clearer on what progress has been made, and we can make further decisions when the petition next returns to the committee. I thank members for their assistance.

Criminal Justice Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 26 January 2022

Audrey Nicoll

I do not think that anyone else wants to come in. On the basis of the points that have been made, I think that we are agreed. I know that Rona Mackay is minded to close the petition, but my suggestion is that we keep it open. As members have commented, we seek further clarity on the plan to take the matter forward and we will write to the cabinet secretary for details on progress and a further update on timescales. My proposal is that we keep the petition open and write to the cabinet secretary. Are we agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 January 2022

Audrey Nicoll

I will bring in Jamie Greene, who will be followed by Katy Clark.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Report (Scottish Government Response)

Meeting date: 19 January 2022

Audrey Nicoll

I thank members for their comments. There is a lot in there. I agree with some of the issues that have been raised, including Jamie Greene’s question about the capital budget, particularly for policing. There is a lot in what has been said about issues such as FAIs and deaths in custody. We all acknowledge that a lot of work has been done and progress made on that, but we must keep an eye on the issue.

I propose consolidating the points that have been made. We may wish to follow that up with some correspondence to the cabinet secretary, seeking clarity on those points, or we may be content with the reply that he has provided. Do members agree to some follow-up correspondence with the cabinet secretary?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Report (Scottish Government Response)

Meeting date: 19 January 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Item 2 is consideration of the Scottish Government’s response to the committee’s pre-budget scrutiny report. I refer members to paper 2. I thank the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Veterans for his detailed response.

I invite members to share any views they have or follow-up action that they would like the committee to take in response to the cabinet secretary. I will bring in Russell Findlay, Pauline McNeill, and I think that I saw Fulton MacGregor’s hand go up.

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 January 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Finally, I will hand over to Fulton McGregor, after which I will make a few comments.

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 January 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you very much, Jamie—that is helpful.