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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 2 September 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Northern Ireland Troubles (Legacy and Reconciliation) Bill

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Audrey Nicoll

There will be a division.

For

Clark, Katy (West Scotland) (Lab)
MacGregor, Fulton (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP)
Mackay, Rona (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP)
McNeill, Pauline (Glasgow) (Lab)
Nicoll, Audrey (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP)
Stevenson, Collette (East Kilbride) (SNP)

Abstentions

Findlay, Russell (West Scotland) (Con)
Greene, Jamie (West Scotland) (Con)

Criminal Justice Committee

Northern Ireland Troubles (Legacy and Reconciliation) Bill

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Audrey Nicoll

The issue will now move to the chamber for all members to debate, based on our report. With that, I thank the cabinet secretary and her officials for attending this morning.

We will now have a short suspension while we wait for the next team to come in.

09:59 Meeting suspended.  

10:01 On resuming—  

Criminal Justice Committee

Online Safety Bill

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Absolutely. As the minister said, one of the important areas of work is the preventative work that is being done. I suppose that prevention and intervention are absolutely key.

Criminal Justice Committee

Economic Crime and Corporate Transparency Bill

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I think that you might have jumped ahead to our next agenda item.

Criminal Justice Committee

Economic Crime and Corporate Transparency Bill

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Audrey Nicoll

On that note, we will move swiftly on.

Our next item of business is consideration of any final issues that we want to raise in our report on the supplementary LCM. Again, I will open up the meeting for members to raise any specific points.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I remind members that we will be having a public evidence session next week on the issue of police officer suicide, which I hope will be an opportunity to raise some of the issues that Russell Findlay has outlined. I know that he is very interested in that particular issue.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I know that DBI has been an option for a number of years, and it is relatively straightforward. My understanding is that police officers can use DBI as a referral option for somebody they encounter who is experiencing poor mental health. Ultimately, that would normally be routed to the person’s GP, who would pick up the referral and engage with the person. There may be some other points of contact along that pathway. I know that it is considered to be a successful, user-friendly and well-established option. If it is helpful, and if members are happy to do so, we can ask for some more detail on DBI. I think it is quite an important tool in the toolbox overall.

Jamie, was your second point in relation to the enhanced mental health pathway?

Criminal Justice Committee

Fireworks and Pyrotechnic Articles (Scotland) Act 2022

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Nobody else wants to come in.

Russell Findlay and Jamie Greene have both made a lot of reasonable points. The letter sets out the current position around legislation, which, in the context of this discussion around pyrotechnics, has perhaps one or two gaps.

I was pleased to read that the minister, along with officials, is having

“further discussions with Police Scotland, football clubs and authorities, and other ... stakeholders, about the effectiveness of FBOs.”

The point that you made latterly, Jamie, around the course of conduct, is key. We may be able to ask about that, but it is my understanding that a course of conduct would be anticipated before an order would be placed on someone. That is a practical issue at the moment. A lifelong ban would apply if a series of incidents—a course of conduct—indicated that a person was not desisting from their behaviour but continued taking pyrotechnics into a ground.

We have noted the points that have been raised. If the committee is in agreement, we can put those further questions to the minister.

Members: indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee

Northern Ireland Troubles (Legacy and Reconciliation) Bill

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Audrey Nicoll

We move straight to questions from members, starting with Jamie Greene.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Our final item of business is consideration of correspondence on the issue of policing and mental health. I refer members to paper 4.

I thank the cabinet secretary for her helpful update and certainly welcome the creation of a cross-ministerial working group on this important subject. I hope that the committee’s interest in the issue, and the priority that we have given to it, is beginning to have an impact. We are beginning to see some progress on addressing the matters that we have highlighted.

Do members want to raise any points about the cabinet secretary’s letter or ask any further questions?