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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 16 December 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Health Service Dental Services

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Jenni Minto

You are right to pick up on the statistic about the difference between the least deprived and most deprived areas. In fact, this year we had the lowest gap between the least deprived and most deprived areas, so improvement is taking place. It is nothing to shout about, however, and we absolutely recognise that we have much more work to do.

You are right that childsmile is one of the key areas where we can make a difference. I am pleased that dental practices, communities and schools have re-embraced childsmile after a pretty awful time for oral health during the Covid pandemic. Registrations from nought to two-year-olds, which had fallen to 25 per cent, are up at 40 per cent this year. Again, we are seeing improvement.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Health Service Dental Services

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Jenni Minto

I would very much prefer it if people were able to see dentists sooner than they currently do. That is what we are focusing on in delivering the wide range of outputs and changes that we are working on now.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Health Service Dental Services

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Jenni Minto

Absolutely. Your point about training our own is really important, too; the dental courses that we have in Stornoway and Dumfries ensure that people from the local area can get training there, and you would hope that they would stay in that local area, too.

Tim is looking at me, because he wants to add something.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Health Service Dental Services

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Jenni Minto

Public Health Scotland is doing a lot of work to ensure that we have that information. The changes that were brought in on 1 November last year included looking at the regularity of dental appointments. When I grew up, you went to see your dentist every six months but, under new determination 1, that will be a clinical decision, which means that appointments could be up to every two years for those with very good oral health. We are looking at that information and trying to understand whether that can be captured, too.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Health Service Dental Services

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Jenni Minto

In a perfect world, we would want everyone to be able to see their dentist at a time when they want to. We are working on that. It is important for you to remember that being registered with a dentist means that the dentist can get the capitation payment, which is important to their on-going business.

The work we are currently doing is trying to increase the availability of dentists and their teams to ensure that people can see their dentist in a timely manner.

Tim McDonnell has kindly just given me the latest statistics, which show that 60 per cent of those registered—which means 3.1 million people—have seen a dentist in the past two years. Do I think that we should be improving that? I do, which is why we are working hard on workforce planning, fees and governance.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Health Service Dental Services

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Jenni Minto

I think I did answer your question, Dr Gulhane.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Health Service Dental Services

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Jenni Minto

I recognise exactly that point. Dentists have written and spoken to me directly about the impact of the increase in employer national insurance contributions.

It is also important to recognise that, if dentists deliver more than 50 per cent of their activity for the NHS, they are not eligible for relief through employment allowance. That is concerning. The cabinet secretary has written to the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care, and we continue to highlight the issue and press for greater clarity as to what will happen.

The important thing to recognise is that the Scottish Government has increased dental funding to more than £0.5 billion in the next budget. That is very important and I do not think that anyone here would disagree that that money should be spent on improving dental care and oral health in Scotland and should not be going to the Treasury.

Over this parliamentary session, we have increased our spend on dentistry by 33 per cent, which shows the intention of the Government on oral health.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Health Service Dental Services

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Jenni Minto

That fits exactly with the work that we are doing with the other three nations. I have experienced going to a GP surgery and seeing an advanced nurse practitioner, which made everything much easier. When people go to a dentist, they cannot get any treatment until the dentist has seen them. This is about understanding how can we ensure that people who are working in the dental team are working to the top of their qualifications.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Health Service Dental Services

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Jenni Minto

That is still our intention, but, given the current financial climate, we have been focusing on ensuring that we can stabilise dentistry in Scotland and that we have the right workforce. That commitment is still our intention.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Health Service Dental Services

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Jenni Minto

As I highlighted, we have allocated £0.5 billion to dentistry in the 2025-26 budget, which is a 33 per cent increase during this session of Parliament. If the Scottish Government had simply allocated Barnett consequentials, the amount would have been about £300 million, which would have left a shortfall. That emphasises the importance that we put on investing in dental health in Scotland.