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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 June 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

Have you conducted an internal assessment of the hydrocracker and the hydrogen unit that feeds it? Are you able to share that with the committee at all?

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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

I know that other members are going to come in with more detail on a lot of these questions. On Grangemouth in particular, the community has a multitude of issues. The committee’s general sense, as we brought out in our earlier report, was that the community had gained no material benefit from the carbon revolution, and that it has concerns about a just transition.

I understand what you are saying about profit margins and the future direction of travel, but what would need to happen in order for both Ineos and Petroineos, and PetroChina, to pause the plans for the refinery to allow more substantive steps to be taken to enable a just transition?

I fully understand the direction of travel, but what would need to happen for there to be a pause? I think that that is what most people are looking for.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

Thank you for being very clear about that. My final question is whether you have specifically asked the UK Government for financial support or, indeed, whether the need for it has been discussed at any point up to today. In other words, could there be any doubt in its mind that that could still have been an incentive to bring about a pause, as I have discussed?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Convener

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

Our next item of business is to choose a new convener. As explained in paper 1, the Parliament has agreed that only members of the Labour Party in Scotland are eligible to be chosen as convener of the committee, and I invite a nomination.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

The convener mentioned the economic impact—I think that the figure is 2,822 jobs. Given that many services are shared, there are also concerns about job losses at the chemical plant as a result of the move to an import facility. Do you anticipate any job losses at the chemical plant? If so, how many?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

I still do not understand why the assessments were not done at the time.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

Good morning, minister. Thank you for attending the meeting this morning.

I want to ask about ScotWind. In her original statement, the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government said that the intention was to draw down £460 million from ScotWind. That came under some criticism by many people, not least of all me. However, as the convener has already pointed out, luckily, it now looks as though matters have changed, due to your excellent internal planning assumption. More important, we will not have a final update until the spring budget revision. What assessment have you made of the behavioural impacts on investment as a result of continued uncertainty about whether the ScotWind money will be used for revenue spending or to genuinely support future growth?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

I am looking at the general principle, because the information that we have is quite opaque, because we have moneys coming into certain areas. I am looking at the general principle, as that appears to be what has happened.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

That was my working assumption, so I was surprised to see the transfer from net zero and energy to enterprise, trade and investment. It is good that that money is going to offshore energy, because that adds investment, but, given that both growing the economy and tackling the climate emergency are Scottish Government priorities, what was the thinking behind swapping the money from one priority area to another? There were net funding changes of £19.6 million from net zero and energy to enterprise.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Michelle Thomson

We are all grateful for the changes that have been made thus far, at the behest of the committee, to provide greater transparency. Regarding your role and the good work that, I understand, you are doing to seek to make savings from a public administration point of view, have you had any thoughts about how that can be transparently demonstrated? I know that that does not relate to our discussion today, but it would relate to future budgets.