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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 15 March 2022
Michelle Thomson
Like everyone else, I could ask a multitude of questions, but we would be here all day.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 15 March 2022
Michelle Thomson
For the record, I point out that the Scottish Government is recommending refusal of the LCM.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 8 March 2022
Michelle Thomson
Thank you. There is a bit more detail that it would be useful to have about how things are working specifically. I am aware that there has been a lot of reworking of the determination of the loan book at UK Government level. It has been through a number of iterations, and there is some sleight of hand there in accounting terms, which I am aware of, too. That is probably a technical term that I should not have used.
In some respects that does not matter. What interests me is why we should care. In other words, what, specifically, has this got to do with the Scottish budget? Why are we having this technical change of £298.7 million appearing for us—given that it is a loan book—while we do not have student loans in Scotland? That is what I do not understand.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 8 March 2022
Michelle Thomson
So it really is just a technical thing. It is not—
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 8 March 2022
Michelle Thomson
For what it is worth, I think that it is very good to have that. It is a positive, and I wanted to get the understanding of it on the record, so I thank you for that.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 8 March 2022
Michelle Thomson
I have quick question on something that has come up a number of times in a variety of these sessions about the budget process. I fully accept what you are saying—I think that most people would agree that it is somewhat inefficient. Do you collect any data about that? When I say “inefficient”, I mean these late changes at the 11th hour, where you think you that have spend, you allocate it and then you need to move it from budget pots or whatever—there is a whole variety of things.
Do you have any sense of the additional cost of doing that in terms of hours accrued, because that is a hard figure? You must be collecting days spread throughout all the departments that are working on it. Do you have any sense of that—apart from loss of hair?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 8 March 2022
Michelle Thomson
I am trying to explain that, from an accountability perspective, money that the UK Government provides to councils has to be bid for. We have already agreed that that process is inefficient, as some public expenditure is lost through days of inefficiency. It is not the same as money being set aside, with assistance on how councils should spend it from the Scottish Government, because that is done on a universal basis. I am just trying to confirm that my understanding is correct.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 8 March 2022
Michelle Thomson
Yes.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 8 March 2022
Michelle Thomson
Yes. I accept your point, because until we have the data, we cannot start to make that assessment. I do not know whether Emma Congreve has anything to add in response to my two questions.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 8 March 2022
Michelle Thomson
Yes—I am trying to make that distinction. It is not like for like in quite the way that was set out.
I turn to my other question. I am interested in the point that you make at paragraph 13 of your submission. Can you give us a bit more flavour on disaggregating data in order to distinguish between employment activities that are in the public sector in Scotland but are not in the public sector in England? From the point of view of comparing apples with apples, that is very interesting, because the picture is quite opaque when we look at that per capita spend.