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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 June 2025
Karen Adam
Thank you. As you say that, I am aware that if there was a classroom assistant who could use BSL to talk to a deaf child in a mainstream school, that child would still only be talking to an adult in the classroom. What difference would it make to a deaf child if other pupils in the class—their peers—could communicate with them in BSL?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 June 2025
Karen Adam
Thank you for that.
Hannah, what do you see as the positives and the challenges of the BSL legislation?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 June 2025
Karen Adam
I welcome our second panel of witnesses today: Professor Jemina Napier, who is chair of intercultural communication, Heriot-Watt University; Lucy Clark, who is a deaf domestic abuse researcher, advocate and trainer; and Rachel O’Neill, who is from the Moray house school of education and sport, University of Edinburgh. You are all welcome. As with the first panel, we have not scheduled a break, but please indicate to me or the clerks if you would like a short break.
I say in BSL, good morning and welcome to the Scottish Parliament and the equalities committee. It is good to see you.
I will start off by asking questions. We heard from the first panel about a lot the positives of the British Sign Language (Scotland) Act 2015 but also some of the challenges with it. I will come to you first, Lucy Clark. What is your opinion on the positives of the BSL act and what challenges have you seen?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 June 2025
Karen Adam
That is great. What are the challenges with implementing some of the actions related to the BSL act?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 June 2025
Karen Adam
That is okay, thank you. Alana Harper, what are the positive impacts of the act, and what are the main challenges?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 June 2025
Karen Adam
Thank you. Alana Harper, could you tell the committee a bit more about interpreters, how the different levels work and why that is important?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 June 2025
Karen Adam
I suggest that we have a brief five-minute comfort break.
11:50 Meeting suspended.Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 June 2025
Karen Adam
Dr Tweed, did you want to come in?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 June 2025
Karen Adam
I have an additional question. We have spoken a lot about how important the expansion of BSL education and interpreter training, improved data collection and sustainable funding are in meeting the everyday needs of BSL users. The evidence that you have provided has been really helpful and extremely thorough, and I thank you all for that. However, an issue that we have not touched on is that of how important it is for BSL users to be able to access sport and arts and culture.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 June 2025
Karen Adam
Yes. That is an important point: interpreters are not qualified teachers of the deaf. Thank you.
That brings an end to our public session this morning—well, it is afternoon now. We will move into private to discuss the remaining items on our agenda. Thank you so much again.
12:30 Meeting continued in private until 12:43.