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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2025
Karen Adam
Good morning, and welcome to the 21st meeting in 2025, in session 6, of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. Agenda item 1 is our first evidence session on the Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill. We will hear from three panels of witnesses.
I welcome our first panel. We are joined in the room by the Rev Stephen Allison, public engagement co-ordinator at the Free Church of Scotland; Claire Benton-Evans, provincial youth co-ordinator at the Scottish Episcopal Church; Barbara Coupar, director of the Scottish Catholic Education Centre; and the Rev Stephen Miller, co-ordinator of the education and schools group at the Church of Scotland. We are joined remotely by Leah Rivka, research and publications officer at the Jewish Council of Scotland. You are all very welcome.
We will now turn to questions from members. If you would like to respond to a question or any point that is raised, please indicate that to me. Leah, if you wish to come in, please type R in the chat and the clerks will bring that to my attention.
I will kick off with the first question, which is for everyone. What is your experience of how the right to withdraw from religious observance and religious and moral education currently works in schools?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2025
Karen Adam
Leah Rivka has indicated that she would like to come in as well.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2025
Karen Adam
We now have questions from Maggie Chapman.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2025
Karen Adam
Thank you for that clarification.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2025
Karen Adam
That concludes the evidence session. I thank the witnesses for their participation. We will suspend the meeting briefly to allow for a change of witnesses.
10:48 Meeting suspended.Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2025
Karen Adam
I welcome to the meeting our third panel of witnesses. We are joined in person by Dr Conor Hill and Melissa Murray, both of whom are lecturers in law at Glasgow Caledonian University; Professor Angela O’Hagan, chair, and Caitlin Fitzgerald, legal and policy co-ordinator, UNCRC, from the Scottish Human Rights Commission; and Professor Elaine Sutherland, a member of the child and family law sub-committee of the Law Society of Scotland. We are also joined online by Rachel Fox, senior policy advisor, UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, the United Kingdom Committee for UNICEF—UNICEF UK.
We will go straight to questions. Please indicate if you would like to respond to any questions or if you have any points that you would like to raise. Rachel, if you want to come in, please type R in the chat function and the clerks will bring that to my attention.
I will kick off by asking, first of all, about your experience with regard to the right to withdraw from religious and moral education and religious observance. Perhaps Professor Sutherland can start.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2025
Karen Adam
We move to questions from Pam Gosal.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2025
Karen Adam
Thank you. We will now move to questions from Maggie Chapman.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2025
Karen Adam
That brings our witness session to a close this morning—well, it is afternoon now. Thank you all for attending. We will now move into private to discuss the remaining items on our agenda.
12:17 Meeting continued in private until 12:33.Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2025
Karen Adam
Before I bring in Maggie Chapman, Rhoda Grant would like to ask a supplementary question.