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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 June 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Ofcom

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Stephen Kerr

George Adam is not a fan of regulators in general, I think, and I am afraid that I join him in that. The Westminster Parliament gives regulators powers, but I am unconvinced that they use their powers. I think that George Adam has made a very strong case for that in connection with what is happening with radio broadcasting in Scotland. At the end of the day, the reason why we have a regulator is to make sure that the marketplace is fair and that it fairly reflects what Parliament—Westminster in this case—has regulated for you to enforce.

I did not think that the answer that you gave to Alexander Stewart was particularly convincing. Instead of talking about ensuring that the 8 per cent of programming that the BBC is required to make in Scotland is made in Scotland by local production, it sounded like you were creating a massive loophole by talking about nuance and flexibility. How committed is the regulator, Ofcom, to insisting that that 8 per cent is not just a tick box for the BBC and that the programme is actually being made by locally based production companies? I did not hear any assurance in response to Mr Stewart’s question that that was your intention at all.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Ofcom

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Stephen Kerr

No, I understand that.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Ofcom

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Stephen Kerr

What is Ofcom’s interpretation of that wording currently? You are the regulator, and I presume you have interpreted article 14. What is your interpretation?

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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Ofcom

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Stephen Kerr

No, what does

“authentic portrayal and representation of the diverse communities”

mean? What programming, what tangible measurement? I know that you are reporting—I get that—but what is your tangible measurement? How do we know whether the BBC is fulfilling article 14 in a Scottish context?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Ofcom

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Stephen Kerr

Are they happy with it?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Ofcom

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Stephen Kerr

That is another thing that we will want to watch the development on. As you can probably tell, I have strong views about what children can currently access online.

My final question is about Royal Mail. There is a bunch of stuff going on with Royal Mail. You will understand that constituents regularly tell me how poor the Royal Mail service now is in certain parts of my constituency and indeed in wider Scotland—particularly in rural and remoter areas but also in urban areas. What powers does Ofcom have to enforce the universal service obligation that Royal Mail is currently, I think, paying lip service to?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Ofcom

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Stephen Kerr

You have already said—and I refer to the announcement that you referred to—that the universal service obligations urgently need reform. I think that that is a quote from what Ofcom said. Do you want to elucidate on what “urgently needs reform” means? Some of the ideas that have been floated around this issue are, for example, that second-class letters would not be delivered by a certain time or on certain days or that the service would not be six days a week—all kinds of further retreats from the universal service obligation. What does it mean?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Ofcom

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Stephen Kerr

So the “urgently” needed reforms that Ofcom identified are around consistency and reliability.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Ofcom

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Stephen Kerr

No.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Ofcom

Meeting date: 29 May 2025

Stephen Kerr

We will watch for that with interest.

I have two more quick questions if the convener’s patience allows it. We cannot talk about TV and radio, or about one segment of broadcast, without talking about all the platforms that now exist. Does Ofcom have powers to properly protect children from harmful or age-inappropriate content online?