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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 November 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 (Impact on Public Finances)

Meeting date: 28 September 2021

Liz Smith

I have one more question that picks up on the point about additional scrutiny. Last week, the convener asked the Deputy First Minister about how easy it is, when we come to the national performance framework, to drill down on something that is national spend and something that is local government spend. That is very difficult, because it is not easy to see where the money is being spent and who is accountable for it.

Do you have any recommendations for how we could improve the process of understanding where the budget lines are for local government, as opposed to national spend?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 (Impact on Public Finances)

Meeting date: 28 September 2021

Liz Smith

I entirely agree with the convener that ensuring transparency and accountability is the biggest job that this committee faces and—dare I say it?—the biggest job that the Parliament faces.

Auditor General, you and your predecessor Caroline Gardner have made clear that you are keen to see additional processes that would enhance transparency. You mentioned the summer revisions and talked about what the Public Accounts Commission could do. Are there structures in this Parliament that could be improved, to enhance scrutiny and accountability? I know that you cannot comment on public policy, but will you say whether a finance bill—a procedure that has not been customary in this Parliament—is a possible way of improving transparency and accountability?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23: Public Finances and the Impact of Covid-19

Meeting date: 14 September 2021

Liz Smith

Mr Eiser, do you feel that that is a substantial problem with the fiscal framework, or can we get around that problem?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23: Public Finances and the Impact of Covid-19

Meeting date: 14 September 2021

Liz Smith

That is interesting, thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23: Public Finances and the Impact of Covid-19

Meeting date: 14 September 2021

Liz Smith

You are going to tell me that you would like more money in order to do those things. Do you feel that certain structures should be changed to allow for what you describe as a fairer spend?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23: Public Finances and the Impact of Covid-19

Meeting date: 14 September 2021

Liz Smith

Yes.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23: Public Finances and the Impact of Covid-19

Meeting date: 14 September 2021

Liz Smith

That is helpful. Mr Mason raised earlier the question whether it is better and more effective, and perhaps more efficient, for local government to respond to local needs. Do you feel that the increased flexibility that you are asking for would make that more possible, and that local government should better respond to local needs rather than national priorities?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23: Public Finances and the Impact of Covid-19

Meeting date: 14 September 2021

Liz Smith

I want to probe a little further on the question about forecasts. We had an interesting discussion when the Scottish Fiscal Commission and the Office for Budget Responsibility were in front of the committee. Do you feel that one of the issues that is detrimental to Scotland is the timescale difference between when different forecasts are presented, which makes it difficult for the Scottish Government to play out the national situation, seen on the UK level, against what is very Scottish data? Is there a problem there about the timescales and the methodologies that are being used?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23: Public Finances and the Impact of Covid-19

Meeting date: 14 September 2021

Liz Smith

I agree with you about trust—that is very important.

I want to press you a bit more on whether you think that there should be structural changes that would make the fiscal framework easier for local authorities.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23: Public Finances and the Impact of Covid-19

Meeting date: 14 September 2021

Liz Smith

Notwithstanding what you said about the need to improve intergovernmental relations between Holyrood and Westminster, which is crucial, one of the interesting things that the committee has to wrestle with is what the fiscal framework should look like going into the future and how to inspire growth and make sure that the Scottish economy is doing as well as it possibly could do, as Mr Perman said in his sensible remarks. In that context, and in relation to some of the comments in your submissions, what would you like to see improved in the fiscal framework when it is renegotiated in the next few months?